What terrible side effects have you experience with maintenance windows? I love 
using them.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Miller, Todd
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] Pending Reboot and notification

Shoot.

I suppose maintenance windows might help with this, but they have so many 
terrible side-effects that I hate to use them.  This problem comes up 
infrequently, but when it does, Murphy’s law dictates it happens at a critical 
time.

That warning at the start of the reboot time, using notify balloons is easy to 
miss if you are looking away for 5 seconds.  I could make the non-dismissable 
window pop up for longer than the default 15 minutes, but then that window is 
potentially in the way of something for a longer period of time.   What I 
really need is for some way to make SCCM NEVER reboot the client.  I will take 
care of rebooting when necessary

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dwayne Allen
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:03 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] Pending Reboot and notification

We are in pretty much the same situation.  We suippress reboots, and then 
deploy a program to remind the stragglers of the need to reboot.  A few times, 
that program or another one have forced reboots on people when a hard reboot is 
pending.

As I understand it SCCM groups reboots in HARD or SOFT.  A soft reboot just 
tells SCCM that the install is finished but a reboot is needed at some point in 
the future to fully complete.  No big deal.  A hard reboot tells SCCM that the 
computer is in such a state that install is finished but that the computer is 
in an unstable state and no other installations can be performed until a reboot 
is performed and the OS stabilizes.

If you have a required deployment that hits a deadline then SCCM must install 
it, but if a hard reboot is pending then in order to perform the install it 
must first reboot the PC in order to complete the previous install.  
Unfortunately as far as I know there is no way to create a required deployment 
that will ignore hard reboots.  Once you are in that hard reboot state it has 
to be resolved before anything else can happen

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Dwayne Allen
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
(479) 310-0027

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Miller, Todd 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I suppress reboots on software updates and then I run a custom program to 
notify the user and reboot the computer.

This has been working pretty well, but I recently ran into a problem with this.

I had some computers that ended up in a “Hard Reboot was found pending” state 
and on those computers, SCCM forced a reboot before it would allow my Reboot 
package to run.  Basically, it rebooted the client so that the reboot checker 
Program could run.

What is a HARD REBOOT pending state?  I have not run into that before.  
Normally, my check for reboot and notify script is allowed to run even if a 
client is in a pending reboot state.  This Hard Reboot pending is a new one on 
me.  It is forcing the computer to reboot before any other package is allowed 
to run-  Even if I have all packages set to suppress reboot or “program 
controls reboots”    I suppose there is no way to tell SCCM to ignore HARD 
REBOOT PENDING states and just let a package run.

Hmmm…..

ProgramID="Reboot for patches"  <----This is my custom reboot notifier.  It 
kicked off to notify the user a reboot was needed.  But before it was allowed 
to run, SCCM wanted to reboot the client to get the client ready to run it.



Raising client SDK event for class CCM_Program, instance 
CCM_Program.PackageID="XXX000F9",ProgramID="Reboot for patches", actionType 1l, 
value , user NULL, session 4294967295l, level 0l, verbosity 30l     execmgr     
         2/2/2015 10:19:52 AM         7424 (0x1D00)
MTC signaled SWD execution request with program id: Reboot for patches, package 
id: XXX000F9 for execution.                execmgr              2/2/2015 
10:19:52 AM    6704 (0x1A30)
++A Hard Reboot was found pending. Pause MTC task : 
{C07FCF2A-A85E-48D4-8E7C-A5DA125DF59E}    execmgr                2/2/2015 
10:19:52 AM    6704 (0x1A30)
Pausing the corresponding MTC task with id: 
{C07FCF2A-A85E-48D4-8E7C-A5DA125DF59E}           execmgr              2/2/2015 
10:19:52 AM       6704 (0x1A30)
Execution Request for advert XXX20069 package XXX000F9 program Reboot for 
patches state change from Ready to Paused execmgr              2/2/2015 
10:19:52 AM    6704 (0x1A30)
Raising client SDK event for class CCM_Program, instance 
CCM_Program.PackageID="XXX000F9",ProgramID="Reboot for patches", actionType 1l, 
value , user NULL, session 4294967295l, level 0l, verbosity 30l     execmgr     
         2/2/2015 10:19:52 AM         6704 (0x1A30)
MTC task with id {C07FCF2A-A85E-48D4-8E7C-A5DA125DF59E}, changed state from 4 
to 6             execmgr              2/2/2015 10:19:52 AM       6704 (0x1A30)

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