Agree.  It can only be a good thing if it enables us to have a more consistent 
environment out there.

However, It would be excellent if they could implement some way we could 
install the Rollup, whilst excluding one of its subsidiaries, even temporarily.

Rich Mawdsley

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: 16 August 2016 12:55
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

I was little uneasy about Windows 10 CU/UR whatever they call it. It's been 
going well so far.  I think this is a good thing.  From my perspective, it will 
save me a tone of time, and make our PC's way more secure.  Bring it on.
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:31 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

I totally agree.  In fact yesterday we had to pull off a security update 
because it "broke" an app.  So instead of the vendor fixing their app, we're 
going to allow a potential security threat?

In my opinion I think this is a good thing.  Give me just a single patch each 
month so I don't have to worry about 5 this month, 2 the month before, 7 the 
prior month...

Aaron Czechowski talked about this at MMS this last Spring.
[cid:[email protected]]

Like Andreas said, "Just my 2 cents."

Mike



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:54 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

This is very understandable and typicaly the way of "as-a-service" solutions 
work, regardless of vendor. Doing it any other way would be too costly & time 
consuming. I think we should be happy that MS is even considering non security 
fixes for these operating systems!

I think part of it is also to create an even bigger haystack to hide the 
needles in for the security updates to delay the re-engineers finding the 
actual issues from the patches that MS releases.

One thing is sure, as ConfigMgr does support delta downloads of these patches 
yet it will be a large file per month to download to each location. So people 
that haven't started looking at ways to peer-to-peer this should do that... 
fast. With Win10 this is a 1GB DL per month per PC and counting.

As per the not secure vs functionality, it's the same as the idiots not 
vaccinating their kids as they think they might get whatever from it. Go to 
your vendor and tell them to fix the app. If they don't, switch app.

Unless you want to go Linux/Mac side, but thinking you have more control there 
makes me laugh.

Just my 2 cents.

//A

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: den 16 augusti 2016 01:29
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

I've been told "get used to it" on the patch management list. Not good enough. 
I think this is ridiculous.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

1+

If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that's 
certainly going the mess up things..

Von: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Miller, Todd
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42
An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Betreff: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

Wow, this could be a disaster.

We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay the 
installation of a security update so that applications could be modified to 
work with updates.  In a couple of cases, one ongoing, Microsoft has released a 
security update, then acknowledged a bug in that update and released a fix 
several months later.  We currently have KB3170455 denied in our environment 
because it breaks point - and -print driver installation.  In the new world, I 
will need to decide which is worse - no security updates for 3 months, or break 
printing for all non-admin users.  Currently I can decide to pull or hold an 
individual patch, but it looks like that option is being removed from Windows 7 
and 8.     This comes at a time where it seems like patch quality has hit a 
rough patch, making this decision more troubling.

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