Sooooo......you work for free? On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Todd Hemsell <[email protected]> wrote:
> What you want or need does not matter. Only thing that matters is MS > profits. > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Roland Janus <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> So, what’s the practical.. solution to 3170455? >> >> >> >> I really see no real thread on keeping point&print working as before >> compared to not being able to have network printers installed without major >> hassle. >> >> I use AD-site based GPO, whenever people move to another site they get a >> central printer installed. This is just great until MS broke it for a >> security improvement I can really live with. >> >> Not having any choice is what sucks big time here. >> >> >> >> -Roland >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com] *Im Auftrag von *Michael Niehaus >> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. August 2016 18:41 >> *An:* [email protected] >> *Betreff:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> Each update (MSU/CAB) has to be installed in its entirety. >> >> >> >> If you encounter any issues with an update, contact Microsoft Support >> right away. They are serious about resolving issues as quickly as possible. >> >> >> >> Certainly the reasoning for making this change is simple: >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Michael >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Andreas >> Hammarskjöld >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:38 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> I thought this was possible? Like WUSA /u /kb:blabla? >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mawdsley R. >> *Sent:* den 16 augusti 2016 14:16 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> Agree. It can only be a good thing if it enables us to have a more >> consistent environment out there. >> >> >> >> However, It would be excellent if they could implement some way we could >> install the Rollup, whilst excluding one of its subsidiaries, even >> temporarily. >> >> >> >> Rich Mawdsley >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *John Aubrey >> *Sent:* 16 August 2016 12:55 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> I was little uneasy about Windows 10 CU/UR whatever they call it. It’s >> been going well so far. I think this is a good thing. From my >> perspective, it will save me a tone of time, and make our PC’s way more >> secure. Bring it on. >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Marable, Mike >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:31 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> I totally agree. In fact yesterday we had to pull off a security update >> because it “broke” an app. So instead of the vendor fixing their app, >> we’re going to allow a potential security threat? >> >> >> >> In my opinion I think this is a good thing. Give me just a single patch >> each month so I don’t have to worry about 5 this month, 2 the month before, >> 7 the prior month… >> >> >> >> Aaron Czechowski talked about this at MMS this last Spring. >> >> >> >> Like Andreas said, “Just my 2 cents.” >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Andreas >> Hammarskjöld >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:54 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> This is very understandable and typicaly the way of “as-a-service” >> solutions work, regardless of vendor. Doing it any other way would be too >> costly & time consuming. I think we should be happy that MS is even >> considering non security fixes for these operating systems! >> >> >> >> I think part of it is also to create an even bigger haystack to hide the >> needles in for the security updates to delay the re-engineers finding the >> actual issues from the patches that MS releases. >> >> >> >> One thing is sure, as ConfigMgr does support delta downloads of these >> patches yet it will be a large file per month to download to each location. >> So people that haven’t started looking at ways to peer-to-peer this should >> do that… fast. With Win10 this is a 1GB DL per month per PC and counting. >> >> >> >> As per the not secure vs functionality, it’s the same as the idiots not >> vaccinating their kids as they think they might get whatever from it. Go to >> your vendor and tell them to fix the app. If they don’t, switch app. >> >> >> >> Unless you want to go Linux/Mac side, but thinking you have more control >> there makes me laugh. >> >> >> >> Just my 2 cents. >> >> >> >> //A >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Murray, Mike >> >> *Sent:* den 16 augusti 2016 01:29 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> I’ve been told “get used to it” on the patch management list. Not good >> enough. I think this is ridiculous. >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Roland Janus >> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 4:08 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> 1+ >> >> >> >> If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that’s >> certainly going the mess up things.. >> >> >> >> *Von:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> orum.com <[email protected]>] *Im Auftrag von *Miller, Todd >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42 >> *An:* [email protected] >> *Betreff:* [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/ >> further-simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/ >> >> >> >> Wow, this could be a disaster. >> >> >> >> We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay >> the installation of a security update so that applications could be >> modified to work with updates. In a couple of cases, one ongoing, >> Microsoft has released a security update, then acknowledged a bug in that >> update and released a fix several months later. We currently have >> KB3170455 denied in our environment because it breaks point – and –print >> driver installation. In the new world, I will need to decide which is >> worse – no security updates for 3 months, or break printing for all >> non-admin users. Currently I can decide to pull or hold an individual >> patch, but it looks like that option is being removed from Windows 7 and >> 8. This comes at a time where it seems like patch quality has hit a >> rough patch, making this decision more troubling. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Notice: This UI Health Care e-mail (including attachments) is covered by >> the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521 and is >> intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is >> addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, >> and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the >> intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this >> communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >> communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete or >> destroy all copies of the original message and attachments thereto. 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