" Michael is the only one actively listening here" He is very vocal in his support of us and has fought for us on a number of issues. Don't underestimate his influence. :) Others also read it, they just do not respond.
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Roland Janus <[email protected]> wrote: > Looking at what showed up yesterday: > > > > > > (We don’t have that many clients yet, hence only 95) > > > > The “none” is the severity which makes this even more nuts. > > One week after patch Tuesday new updates show up which most likely could > have been moved to next month. > > Now they have to wait and are probably replaced with new versions next > month anyway (or again a week later). > > > > To be fair, Michael is the only one actively listening here, or at least > contributing, but my feeling is that those few complaining are just the tip > of the iceberg and it will be worse once it actually hits everyone. > > It would be good for MS to listen and do something about it, but my guess > is: not happening. > > > > -R > > > > > > *Von:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] *Im Auftrag von *Aday, Karalene B (RCIS) > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 22:13 > *An:* [email protected] > *Betreff:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a > disasterous way > > > > Excuse me if I didn’t use the correct terminology. When “additional > updates” are released it impacts us greatly. We alsways decline them and > then approve them with all the other monthly patches. There are months > where there may be a large number released through out the month and it > impacts our workload and also leave room for error. Why are they released > during the month and not part of Patch Tuesday? > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Niehaus > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a > disasterous way > > > > Just curious, what 52 are you referring to? > > > > We routinely release additional updates throughout the month. It’s very > rare to have an out-of-band security update though, those are typically > only on Patch Tuesday. Flash tends to be the notable exception (we align > with when Adobe and others release their updates), and of course fixes to > serious 0-day exploits will always be important. > > > > Thanks, > > -Michael > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Aday, > Karalene B (RCIS) > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:01 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a > disasterous way > > > > I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of > band updates they release each month. We pulled 52 out of bands last night > and I’m sure with their pattern that’s not the end of them for this month. > Patch Tuesday is kind of a joke when they continually do this. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Todd > Hemsell > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:57 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a > disasterous way > > > > Less work for them. > > Here is the fix, use it or not. Even if it breaks other things. We will no > longer put in the extra effort to fix our security flaws, instead we will > put the burden on you to make sure 100% of everything you have is > compatible with these updates. > > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Ed Aldrich <[email protected]> wrote: > > How do you see this approach being driven as a profit-making process? > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:20 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a > disasterous way > > > > Hey, it makes MS more profitable, that is all that matters,. > > > > Same with the forced advertising in a corporate OS you pay millions for > > Same as with the cloud > > Same as with everything > > > > Screw you, suck it up. lol > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Murray, Mike <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I’ve been told “get used to it” on the patch management list. Not good > enough. I think this is ridiculous. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Roland Janus > *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 4:08 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a > disasterous way > > > > 1+ > > > > If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that’s > certainly going the mess up things.. > > > > *Von:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com <[email protected]>] *Im Auftrag von *Miller, > Todd > *Gesendet:* Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42 > *An:* [email protected] > *Betreff:* [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a > disasterous way > > > > https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further- > simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/ > > > > Wow, this could be a disaster. > > > > We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay > the installation of a security update so that applications could be > modified to work with updates. In a couple of cases, one ongoing, > Microsoft has released a security update, then acknowledged a bug in that > update and released a fix several months later. We currently have > KB3170455 denied in our environment because it breaks point – and –print > driver installation. In the new world, I will need to decide which is > worse – no security updates for 3 months, or break printing for all > non-admin users. 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