The content is sent to the secondary site server and the DP that co-exists on 
that site server just shares the content already sent to that secondary site 
server (if you also assign he content to that DP). So, the DP has the content, 
it just never had to have it explicitly sent across the network to it.

(clarifications inline as well)

J

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: Rate limits / throttling to DPs

Ok, so my comment was based on this:

"as no content is ever truly sent to them".

So, if no content is sent to the DP, my thought was, where do clients get the 
content if it's not at the DP.  That's the only reason I brought up clients.
>From a DP with the content based on boundaries and boundary groups, no 
>different. The content not being sent [across the network] to the DP does not 
>imply that the DP doesn't have the content, just that it gets it from another 
>source. As noted, the secondary site server already has the content in the 
>content library and since they share the content library due to their 
>co-existence, no need to do anything really for the DP to get the content.

Think about it the other way. Wouldn't it be stupid if the secondary site had 
to gather the files for a package and somehow send them to the DP if the DP was 
co-located and the files were already there accessible to that co-located DP?

So, to go back to my original question:  Since my DPs are installed on 
secondary sites, is the throttling/rate limit set by the file replication 
section that I have found, or is there no rate limits set between the primary 
and secondary?

What you found is the rate limiting between the site servers and has nothing to 
do with DPs.

And, since the DP is installed on the secondary site, was your comment of "as 
no content is ever truly sent to them", meaning that the content is on the 
secondary site, but not in a specific location for the DP role?

They share the content library when they are co-located so all that has to 
happen is the DP made aware that it should be serving the content - it's 
already there where the DP can access and serve the files.

The content has to be there somewhere, right?

Yes, the shared content library - shared because they are co-located.

Sorry if I'm being dense here, it's been a long couple of weeks, and I'm trying 
to increase my understanding.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:21 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Rate limits / throttling to DPs

No, not at all. Everything that's been said in this thread has nothing to do 
with clients. Rate limiting is about how the content gets to the DP and where 
the content is stored once it gets to the DP. Clients will always use DPs based 
on boundaries and boundary groups which as noted has nothing to do with rate 
limiting or the content library.

J

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 3:59 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Rate limits / throttling to DPs

Hmm.  So, from reading that, it makes no sense to have a DP on a secondary site 
server?  If no content is actually sent to the DP, then all the clients are 
still getting the content from the Primary site?

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 11:47 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Rate limits / throttling to DPs

Actually, those are rate limits to your secondary site, not the DPs. DPs not on 
site servers do in fact have rate limits tabs. As Michael pointed out below 
though, DPs on site serves don't because they share the content library with 
the site server and so having rate limits on the DP makes no sense as no 
content is ever truly sent to them.

J

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Rate limits / throttling to DPs

I found where the setting for Rate Limits is located.  It is no longer on the 
DP properties.  It is located under Hierarchy Configuration - File Replication. 
 Go to the properties for those connections, and there is the Rate Limits tab.

To answer your question, though:  My DPs are on Secondary site servers.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Schultz, Michael A
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 11:53 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Rate limits / throttling to DPs

Is the DP role in the screenshot a standalone DP or installed on a site server? 
 And did you verify it is missing from all DPs?  Rate Limit tab will not show 
on a DP installed on a site server.

Michael Schultz
Client Systems Engineering
Information Systems
Providence Health & Services
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:37 AM
To: '[email protected]' 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [mssms] Rate limits / throttling to DPs

SCCM 1606, including the 3 hotfixes

I know this has been discussed, and I know that I've asked a couple of 
questions.  But I'm still a bit lost on what we can, and cannot do, as far as 
bandwidth throttling to DPs.


1)      I don't have a throttling tab in the properties of my DPs:

2)      My DPs are NOT setup as Pull DPs

3)      If I look at my Distribution Point section, and add the Rate Limits 
column, it says No for all my DPs.

[cid:[email protected]]


So, knowing these things, is there a way to set throttling like there was back 
in 2007/2012?  I know about the BITS throttling in Client Settings, but is that 
really where we set it for data going from the Primary out to the DPs?

Thanks,

Joe Heaton
Information Technology Operations Branch
Data and Technology Division
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor
Sacramento, CA  95811
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