Interesting.  I was playing with App Locker a little as well.  Is the 
Application Identity service running? Maybe I enabled something that kicked off 
App Control to start working.  I’m going to try and get it on a few more system 
today and early next week.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Gannon, Todd
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: Defender Application Control

Hi – I am having similar issues with wdac. Using SCCM 1710 with the rollup, and 
W10 1709 Enterprise.
The documentation says that for ISG to work, devices must be running WD 
SmartScreen for it to be trusted. It doesn’t say that it has to be set to warn 
or block specifically. Anyhow I didn’t have that configured via gp(default set 
to warn) – after configuring it to block it didn’t make too much of a 
difference. Still bricked the OS on reboot. I will continue testing.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2018 4:27 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Defender Application Control

I may have got it to work.  I had Defender Smartscreen in audit only mode, and 
it was killing the system as soon as it picked up the policy.  It seems it 
tried to scan the PC to create CI/Policies, failed, and FUBARED the PC.  I 
moved Defender Smartscreen to Block mode, and it appears to be working.  It’s 
gone through Program Files and is now scanning C:\Windows.  It’s much further 
than it was before, so I think it’s working as intended.

1)      Windows 10 1709 Enterprise, SCCM 1710
2)      No app locker ever implemented, some basic SRP.
3)      Machine wouldn’t boot if I tried to reboot.

I’ll let you know how it goes.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 2:14 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Defender Application Control

Dune is our resident expert on this, but he’s not on the list. I’ll proxy for 
him. 😊

First question: Windows client build and SCCM version

Second question: did they have any applocker rules/policy set up before 
targeting WDAC?

If yes to the second, they should try booting the machine from USB, decrypting 
the OS drive if necessary, deleting %WINDIR%\System32\Applocker\*.applocker and 
restart the machine.

If machine restart is healthy then the problem is applocker, if not then the 
problem is code integrity.

If that is the case I would want to see their 
%WINDIR%\CCM\logs\DeviceGuardHandler.log


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Thursday, 1 February, 2018 10:17
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Defender Application Control

Agreed.  I was assuming that Microsoft’s Intelligent Security Graph would be 
smart enough to allow Microsoft’s EXE that are required to run windows to run 
by default.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:21 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Defender Application Control

Well, if it blocks notepad, it has no way to read the text file.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 5:22 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] Defender Application Control

Has anyone used Defender Application Control policy in SCCM yet?  I have a 
basic policy with the “Authorize software that is trusted by the Intelligent 
Security Graph” option enabled.  Once my test PC checks in, notepad doesn’t 
work and if I reboot, the system is bricked and won’t boot.  Says it can’t 
access a txt file that is used for event logs.  I would have thought the 
Intelligent Security Graph option would at least let Windows boot….








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