At 08:30 12/11/98 +0100, you wrote:
>| Well, if you want, I can find 4 u a real MSX 4 sale. It isn't easy,
>|but it isn't impossible.
>
>I realise that, but what is the difference to you, or anyone else if I use
>an emulator, or if I buy another *real* MSX. It's not like Philips or Sony
>are stil making these computers, so I am not letting them down or something.
>If I buy a real one, I am not supporting them or anyone else..
Why not? You're supporting MSX, by using it as a real computer, not
an emulator.
>| Ademir Carchano, in Brazil, has NEW MSX 2/2+ motherboards 4 sale.
>|Although, he is finishing a new motherboard, the ACE001. U can place it
>|into a PC case, connect it to a PC power source, a PC keyboard, a PC mouse,
>|a VGA monitor, uses 1 and 4 Mb SIMM 30 pin memories... But it is a new MSX.
>|Well, I dislike the PC peripherals, but unfortunately there isn't enough
>|MSX keyboards, MSX monitors and MSX mouses 4 sale. So...
>|
>| Leonardo Padial, in Spain, are finishing his MMSX project, but I
>|don't have enough information about the MMSX (does anyone can tell 4 us
>|about the project? I would be very interested).
>
>These are all very nice projects, but they are low-scale. Also remember: I
Sure, it's low-scale, there isn't any big company behind MSX nowadays.
>live in Holland. What am I going to do with a machine I bought in Spain or
>Brazil when it breakes down ? It will be a bit hard and expensive to go
But, why are you so worried about a MSX breaking down? I've got 3
MSXs, my Turbo-R fell from a 5-feet table, and it still runs smoothly! I've
got some problems with my 2+, but it was the Ni-Ca battery, which had
broke. Are u sure your MSX will have problems in a near future? I don't
think so.
>there to bring my computer in for repairs. Ofcourse: the idea is nice, but I
>really would like to see if is going to work. And as you said.. They are
>still busy with it. I want to use a MSX now..
So, do you really want a REAL MSX?
We can find a MSX 2, or even a 2+ or Turbo-R 4 u in Japan.
>| And, if my T-R will be broken in the next 10 years...
>| When it'll be broken, I think about it. Maybe in 2010, 2020...
>|
>| Well, only one question (please only think about it, don't worry
>|sending me a mail to answer): Do u prefer a MSX emulator or the real MSX?
>
>You can say something for both of them, but you also have to give the
>following credits to emulators:
>
>- Saves a lot of space on your desk ! (Only 1 case, monitor, keyboard,
>etc...
Well, I've a great friend here in Brazil where in his home, there
is no space 4 even his desktop 486 DX2-80. And he has 2 MSXs (a HotBit and
a Turbo-R), a desktop PC and a Toshiba notebook. Well, he has a Game Boy
too... I don't think it's a good excuse, seeing that MSX can be connected
to a TV too.
These MSXs, from Carchano and Padial will be using some PC
peripherals, like keyboard, mouse, power source, disk-drive, 30-pin SIMM
memory boards and case. If u want, surely u will can connect it to a (S)VGA
monitor. Only if the motherboard would have been damaged, but if it's very
difficult to happen.
>- I have over 2 gig's of MSX software stored on my PC, Just by clicking it,
>I can play it. Try that on a real MSX
I can do it too, my T-R has a CD-ROM... =) And Zip-Drive and HD.
>- Just wih a command line option, you can change memory configuration, so
>you can run almost every game
Well, I haven't got many problems with memory configuration with my
MSX, but most of the problems were problems with bad-mooded coders. Have
you seen that old Spanish games, like Paris-Dakar, Army Moves, Navy Moves,
etc.? Its' problem regards to the
And as I can remember, here in Brazil there were program which
would run in a HotBit (Sharp's MSX), but it won't run in a Expert
(Gradiente's MSX - Shame...). And most of these problems were about memory
configuration, about game-loaders which didn't search 4 the right slots and
the right pages. Bug.
>- With a laptop you can even play your games in the train or something !
But, why are you talking only about games?
I don't wanna play games only into my MSX, I want to produce new
programs too! Well, if u wanna play games ONLY, so... Keep on your emulators.
MSX is better, at least 4 me, and almost 4 all the MSXfreaks who
signed to this list. I'm a MSXfreak since 1986, and helped Wiebe Weikamp
creating this list, in May, 1994. Frankly, I'm one of the first MSXusers
who were connected to the Internet, in 1993. And I saw the 'rise-and-fall'
of many emulators: fMSX, CJS, VMSX... Some of them were excelent, some of
the others were terrible. Well, BrMSX is almost one of the best emulators
I've ever seen. But I haven't got it, 'cause actually I don't need an
emulator, not yet.
I'm sure, the MSXuser who would prefer a MSX-emulator, rather than
a real MSX, is not a real MSXuser. If u r using a MSX emulator because of
your needs, allright, keep on doing, and if u don't have a MSX, u can get
even a new MSX (MMSX, from Spain and ACE, from Brazil). But, if u r only
using a MSX emulator, playing games, don't wanna buy a real MSX, but still
keeps shouting: "MSX forever...", it doesn't make any sense.
Sincerely,
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