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| Why not? You're supporting MSX, by using it as a real computer, not
|an emulator.
Cool statement... Now pleae... give me 1 fact ( a real FACT) with which you
prove that I support MSX buy using a real computer instead of an emulator.
(please keep in mind, I also buy original MSX-software to use for my
emulator)
| But, why are you so worried about a MSX breaking down? I've got 3
|MSXs, my Turbo-R fell from a 5-feet table, and it still runs smoothly! I've
|got some problems with my 2+, but it was the Ni-Ca battery, which had
|broke. Are u sure your MSX will have problems in a near future? I don't
|think so.
That is very nice for you, but I have had a Philips NMS 8255 which broke
down, A Sony HBF-500P, which completely burnt out. (short ciruit) A Sony
HBF-700D of which within 2 years the floppy drive died, the CPU broke down
and the VDP processor stopped. At this moment I own a NMS 8255 again, it's
over 11 years old now. But I can promis you that machine will brake down,
sooner or later. Electronics won't surive a life time ! If you like it or
not. CD-player break down, TV's break down and also: computers break down...
| So, do you really want a REAL MSX?
| We can find a MSX 2, or even a 2+ or Turbo-R 4 u in Japan.
Also very nice.. Yes.. Buying a computer from Japan, Paying the airfare..
Who will get better by that ??? Panasonic ? Do you think if I buy a MSX and
import it from Japan, MSX will have a better chance to survive ? Come on..
Wake up... And even if I did buy it... Who is going to assure me that thst
computer will work for another 20 years ! No one.. because it will probably
won't last that long.
|>etc...
|
| Well, I've a great friend here in Brazil where in his home, there
|is no space 4 even his desktop 486 DX2-80. And he has 2 MSXs (a HotBit and
|a Turbo-R), a desktop PC and a Toshiba notebook. Well, he has a Game Boy
|too... I don't think it's a good excuse, seeing that MSX can be connected
|to a TV too.
Yep.. Cool.. I have only 1 tv, and my wife also likes to watch TV
sometimes... And my wife doesn't want to have a computer in the livingroom,
of which I fully agree. All that noise from a computer can be quite
irritating if you are bust in the livingroom.
| These MSXs, from Carchano and Padial will be using some PC
|peripherals, like keyboard, mouse, power source, disk-drive, 30-pin SIMM
|memory boards and case. If u want, surely u will can connect it to a (S)VGA
|monitor. Only if the motherboard would have been damaged, but if it's very
|difficult to happen.
As I said.. nice idea.. but I am *NOT* buying any machine in Brazil !!! Come
on... Wake Up !!! That's something like 15.000 miles from here ! What are
you going to do if that thing got damaged during air transport ! What if
after one year that mainbord brakes down ! Would YOU buy a Computer, of
someone you don't know, who probably wants to be payed in advanced, that
lives 15.000 miles from you ??? be honoust !!!
|
|>- I have over 2 gig's of MSX software stored on my PC, Just by clicking
it,
|>I can play it. Try that on a real MSX
|
| I can do it too, my T-R has a CD-ROM... =) And Zip-Drive and HD.
You tell me what it is going to cost to buy me a:
- Turbo R
- SCSI interface
- 2 gig SCSI harddisk
- Zipdrive
- SCSI CD-Rom
- Slot expander (Because I am probably going to need that)
- SCC Cartridge
Please keep in mind that I am not a rich person or so... Then you tell me
where I am going to leave all that stuff (I only have a small appartment)
and you tell me who is getting better of all this. And don't simply say: MSX
is getting better of all this, because that's a load of bull... No one will
ever notice the difference of me using that emulator, or of me using a real
MSX...
|
|>- Just wih a command line option, you can change memory configuration, so
|>you can run almost every game
|
| Well, I haven't got many problems with memory configuration with my
|MSX, but most of the problems were problems with bad-mooded coders. Have
|you seen that old Spanish games, like Paris-Dakar, Army Moves, Navy Moves,
|etc.? Its' problem regards to the
|
| And as I can remember, here in Brazil there were program which
|would run in a HotBit (Sharp's MSX), but it won't run in a Expert
|(Gradiente's MSX - Shame...). And most of these problems were about memory
|configuration, about game-loaders which didn't search 4 the right slots and
|the right pages. Bug.
Exactly.. Just two or three clicks, or a command line option, and the
problem is solved !!! Or simply use antoher emulator. Just think of this. At
this moment, only emulator users in Europe are able to play with MUST (New
music system), because it only supports the Brazilian megaram... There is
not one computer over here in Europe with that thing. Thanx to BrMSX I can
still use this software !
|
|>- With a laptop you can even play your games in the train or something !
|
| But, why are you talking only about games?
| I don't wanna play games only into my MSX, I want to produce new
|programs too! Well, if u wanna play games ONLY, so... Keep on your
emulators.
not only games... But believe it or not.. Sometimes I do like to play
games...
| MSX is better, at least 4 me, and almost 4 all the MSXfreaks who
|signed to this list. I'm a MSXfreak since 1986, and helped Wiebe Weikamp
|creating this list, in May, 1994.
Nice for you... I already have a MSX since 1984, and I founded FONY, way
back '88. I have had quite some different MSX-computer, had the FONY-TYFOON
Base BBS here in the Netherlands.
Frankly, I'm one of the first MSXusers
|who were connected to the Internet, in 1993. And I saw the 'rise-and-fall'
|of many emulators: fMSX, CJS, VMSX... Some of them were excelent, some of
|the others were terrible. Well, BrMSX is almost one of the best emulators
|I've ever seen. But I haven't got it, 'cause actually I don't need an
|emulator, not yet.
Just as you say... Not yet... That is very nice for you... but eventually,
your MSX will also stop working. And on that day,, you'll be glad that there
is an emulator, which makes is possible to play your games, and to use your
programms...
|
| I'm sure, the MSXuser who would prefer a MSX-emulator, rather than
|a real MSX, is not a real MSXuser.
Who are you to decide that ? Why am I not a "real" MSX-user... I think I
am... And if I take a look at the number of people visiting my site (even
what you call "REAL" MSX-er visit my site), which is over 100 persons each
day, I still tend to think I am doing something for the MSX-world... go and
take a look: http://www.casema.net/~tfh
If u r using a MSX emulator because of
|your needs, allright, keep on doing, and if u don't have a MSX, u can get
|even a new MSX (MMSX, from Spain and ACE, from Brazil).
As far as I know, there are still NO working NEW msx-computers. And I don't
want to go to Spain or Brazil to get one...
|But, if u r only |using a MSX emulator, playing games, don't wanna buy a
real MSX, but still
|keeps shouting: "MSX forever...", it doesn't make any sense.
|
Why not ? If you have created a new game.. You still need people who want to
buy/play it. For you it shouldn't matter if they are going to use it on an
emulator or on a real MSX. The more important thing is the people are still
active, and still support MSX buy buying original software ! That is keeping
MSX alive !!!
Kind regards,
Arnaud de Klerk
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