Ruud vd Moosdijk wrote:
>Just a minor response to Patriek's message about the ECTS showing, not to
brag
>that I know better, but simply because things look a bit too bright if you
>attend a show like the ECTS for the first time and you get so enthusiastic
you
>say or hear things that are not really as they seem.
Sure I'll be the first to admit I sometimes get a little overexcited, but
come on... How many on this list are commercial game developers? I've only
been for a couple of months, and yes I get excited when I get to talk to
Konami, Infogrames, SNK, Kemco etc. Maybe you've gotten used to it?
>Actaully the ECTS is exactly like the E3 in the USA (held in LA last may)
only
>the E3 is a lot bigger, a lot more important and more of a show then the
ECTS.
>Patriek is right about the fact that no consumers or students are allowed at
>the ECTS (no under 18's either) but this is the same at the E3 (Electronic
>Entertainment Expo).
AFAIK the E3 is also a consumers show. Even on the ECTS students were
allowed the first day. The second day was a lot more serious.
You say the E3 is more of a show, I think it's too much of a show. Although
I haven't actually been there, to be honest. Anyway, I liked the ECTS in
that it seemed to me to be a good mix between trade and show.
>Oh, and the show is not for game developers solely, actually I think the
>developers form a minority at the ECTS...publishers, retailers, wholesalers
>make a large presence too.
Sure, but most companies were very glad to talk to some developers in stead
of those 'suits'. :)
>Not to spoil any big thoughts by Patriek, but Paul is a nobody within Konami,
>he doesn't know anything (he never heard of SD Snatcher) and sure as hell is
>not allowed to say anything. Therefore it is very unlikely Paul had anything
>to do with the Konami games appearing on the MCCM CD. It is more likely Paul
>forwarded the request to Konami GmbH in Germany or Konami Inc., in Tokyo.
That's bullshit. Paul did know about SD-Snatcher, he explicitly said HE
gave permission for the Konami stuff on MCCM CD, and he told me some inside
info as well... Sounds to me you've never talked to him personally!
>[Quote:] Anyway, this guy Aki was the leader of the Metal Gear Solid team!
>No he wasn't, Hideo Kojima was. No 22-year old will be put in charge of a
>project conceived by Kojima, he will always do it himself. My guess is Aki
was
>head of the Metal Gear Solid VR Mission team and Patriek misunderstood.
Okay, so he wasn't "leader of the team", I haven't actually asked him about
MGS because that didn't interest me. I'm sure he had some leading function,
either below Hideo or in a different field of development.
>Well, I can't really blame Patriek for his enthusiasm, the ECTS is a bit of a
>kick-ass ride if you are used to MSX fairs, but frankly, take it easy on the
>superlatives.
Hey, let me be a little enthusiastic okay? ;)
>This ECTS was by far the lousiest show of the last 4 or 5 years,
>there wasn't really anything new to see, no exciting merchandise to get
and no
>real impressive booths (like the Virgin Cathedral in 1996).
That's true, I've heard that at the ECTS itself too. But that doesn't mean
anything. I didn't go to the ECTS to see impressive booths or get
merchandise! ECTS has been very productive for me...
>The biggest
>companies in the world simply weren't there to speak to, so Patriek never
>spoke with them (Eidos, Electronic Arts)
Eidos was there, although I didn't talk to them. I didn't need to either.
>and the REAL new releases were all
>behind curtains and not publically displayed.
Yeah, So? Who said I haven't been behind a few curtains?!
>(Like Westwoods upcoming Command
>& Conquer: Renegade and the first glimpses of Nintendo's Dolphin, the
succesor
>to the N64)
I don't care about C&C, or first glimpses of some future console I probably
won't be programming anyways.
Anyway... I think both of us went to the ECTS with different expectations,
different goals and with a different point of view, hence the different
perception.
Patriek
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