First I would like to say that my first message about the ECTS was not some kind of criticism on Patriek's message, from his reaction I got the feeling it was seen as exactly that though :( Anywayz, some reactions on his reactions on my reaction (still reading?) : Quote: >> and yes I get excited when I get to talk to >> Konami, Infogrames, SNK, Kemco etc. Maybe you've gotten used to it? I guess that is true yes and I have gotten used to it. I remember how thrilled I was the first time I visited the ECTS. This remark was not meant to say that you asct foolish or overreact, I just placed it to make people understand why you say it as you said it...could easily be mistaken for bragging you know... Quote: >> You say the E3 is more of a show, I think it's too much of a show. Although >> I haven't actually been there, to be honest. Anyway, I liked the ECTS in >> that it seemed to me to be a good mix between trade and show. Agree with you on that point, the E3 is really just a show, ok, you see the newer stuff even earlier and you can see a lot more then at the ECTS but talking to the people in the business or get some stuff done? ECTS is a far better place to be. Although THIS ECTS was a bit dissapointing since a lot of publishers just had a press booth. >> That's bullshit. Paul did know about SD-Snatcher, he explicitly said HE >> gave permission for the Konami stuff on MCCM CD, and he told me some inside >> info as well... Sounds to me you've never talked to him personally! Actually I have, few years ago...also at the ECTS. When WE were trying to get some stuff done with Konami and get some info on 3rd party development...luckily we found out soon enough we needed to talk to Konami in Germany or in Japan to get some decent response. Maybe you have another opinion about Paul, that is fine, I am just saying he wasn't of any use to us. Maybe Paul got promoted, I don't know. :) And yes, of course we went to the ECTS with different expactations and other business reasons, I take it you just went to meet some interesting people and see the new things, while I went to get some things done, find new partners and see old ones again, make arrangements and find new projects..in short, to keep the Engine running :) You didn't have to worry about that, Misscha takes care of that for Witan. Peace, Ruud van de Moosdijk www.engine-software.com ps. and ofcourse you are allowed to be enthusiastic!! There already are so few enthusiastic people around. **** MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/) ****