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Van: Sander Zuidema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: maandag 3 juli 2000 21:28
Onderwerp: Re: What MSX really means


Hi,


First of all I would like to say that I truly hope there will be a new MSX.
But in order to make a new MSX I think it is wise that groups work together
to achieve this goal. And that cooperation is zero point zero now, because
somehow the Japanese got the impression that the Europeans are not very
interested in their project. How did they get that impression if they did
not talk this over with the big clubs (Sunrise/Padial/Hnostar)?

>The problem was - i think - they expected a Japanese kind of fair
>(every group giving a short speech and demonstration) and they wanted to
>hold
>a speech about the new MSX plans, which could not be held.


I think the point is that most of them cannot understand English and that
they need someone to speak for them. Anyway they could have asked the
organisation what kind of fair Tilburg is like before jumping into a plane
to Holland. That would have saved a lot of troubles.

>Besides, Ikeda may have mailed with a lot of active MSX users, but he
didn't
>know what they looked like, and could not really talk with anyone without
>the help of Rieks (who, by the way, did a great job for about 2 days!!)


This still is no excuse to tell that Europeans are not interested in a new
MSX or that we are not willing to discuss about a new computer based on the
MSX standard. If they want contact with European groups then they have to
take the initiative to let us know what their plans are. Problem is that we
did NOT know about their plans. That was my main point.


>I guess you read the MSX print, and like I said. The Japanese are not
>playing games.


Of course not, but I think it is not wise to spread news that is very vage.
Mentioning big company's is not very smart in this stage. The main part of
the message is a "maybe" and I specifically mean the Yamaha VDP part.

>Would you invest time and money in a new MSX design? Probably not.


So what makes you think ASCII is involved in it then? I do not own a lot of
money, but if for instance Sunrise get permission to make a new MSX then who
is taking the initiative, Sunrise or ASCII?

>But since last year ASCII is again sponsoring MSX-magazine and MSX-fairs.
>Also, on their japanese site, a lot of MSX-books are for sale (at least I
>think they are)
>They don't do that just for fun I guess.


Hmm, it would be nice if they gave us the sourcecode of MSXDOS2 so that we
can make a new and better DOS for MSX.

>Business is business. I hope there is new information soon, but there is
not
>much to tell yet.
>ASCII has not announced officialy yet that there will be a new MSX, but
>there is a good
>chance they will do that at DEN-YU-LAND 2000 (the fair sponsored by ASCII)


I hope they do.


>I do my best to get as much information out of Japan as I can (and a lot of
>other people are,
>also I guess). I think there will not be many news if ASCII doesn't
announce
>the new MSX
>project officialy. Until then we will not certainly know if it's for real
or
>not, and which brands
>are involved with the production.
>
>I think it's best to show the Japanese that we are happy there is something
>going on in Japan.
>It will certainly not help the project yf we don't show any interest at
all,
>I think.


We are interested and most clubs are willing to help I think. Telling us
that we don't care much is not really the way to make us enthousiastic. I
think most groups now want to know if our opinion really counts. That's also
the reason why Rob Hiep reacted to this MSX Print. Sunrise is doing a lot
for MSX and somebody saying that they do not care for a new MSX is not what
motivates people.


>I heard stories (Anne, can you verify this one for me?) that MicroCabin
once
>wanted to translate
>some Cabins to English and sell them in Europe, but nobody seemed to be
>interested.
>I think this situation is similar: We all would be happy if it (had)
>happened.


Different situation and different times. I hope this project will be a
succes, but as said before cooperation is necessary! Time will reveal all.

Greets,

Gerrit


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