Daniel Zorita wrote:
> > I see. And this new, advanced MSX, won't be compatible with old
> softwares,
> NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!
> You YES can run old software in MMSX. Else, we don't consider to make such a
> thing !
So I suppose the MMSX has a v9958, fm, ppi, z80 and all things needed
for a MSX machine?
> The "new software" term only refers to the usage of only-Z380 board.
> If you only get the Z380 board, you must have to get new soft to use it,
> the same as happens with FM, MSound, GFX9000, and other peripherals.
>
> The Z380 is a project finished. You can get a board now if you want.
How much does it cost (in US$) ?
> The MMSX is still a project. Some parts are done. Other parts are still in
> design.
> But the nice thing of the MMSX is that you can remove any card from the MMSX
> and use it separately into a normal MSX. (For example, the Z380, the Sound
> device, the Video device, ...)
>
> Note that MMSX means "modular MMSX", that is, a normal MSX, but separating
> the parts into "cards". And some cards, are 100% compatible, but expanded,
> like CPU, Sound, Video.
what about the old cartridges like Megaram, megascsi, fmpac, etc? Will I
still
be able
to use them in MMSX?
> > what's the point of this? I want a new MSX, and MMSX looks great to me,
> but if
> > i can't run the old apps, it's not a MSX to me...
> I hope to have answered this in the previous text.
> a MMSX can run old software. But it is still a project.
> a Z380 is like a "coprocessor". it has to be programmed, like a
> co-processor.
> But this "coprocessor" is from 5 to 30 times faster than a Z80 !!
Well, if it has everything the standard demands to be a MSX, then it
is indeed a great step in evolution. But it would be even more great
if you could have a new vdp inside with the z380 board...
> >In the other hand, my Ciel MSX2+ turbo with z380 card would still be
> > a MSX capable of running all the old softwares and would have a new board
> > capable of running new 32 bits apps.
> Of course, the Ciel MSX2+ computer is a good idea. It is another way to
> improve
> a MSX. It has advantages and disadvantages.
Well, the only disadvantage it has is that isn't a 32 bits machine. A
big
advantage
is that is 100% compatible with old softwares while having some
interesting
things...
Well, you'll be able to know more about it reading the next issues of
MCCW...
> But you also can plug a Padial's Z380 into your Ciel, and then, you will
> have
> two Z380 processors. isn't it interesting ?
Sure it is. :-)
> > That's what MSX means, I think. Backward
> > compatibility and new technology without breaking the standard.
> We agree at that !!
Good. I'm not the only one. :-)
> The Padial's Z380 is not a new standar. It is a "peripheral" for processing.
> You can have the Z380 card plugged, and run your MSX as usual.
> If you run old software, nothing happens, as they don't use the external
> Z380. But you can use new software that access external Z380.
> Remember that MSX also means "Expandable system".
Sure. That's what i meant in my first message. You can expand it, but
you
can't break the standard otherwise you won't be able to run the old
softwares.
> A question about that Ciel MSX2+ computer.
> What is the clock for the internal Z380 ?
It doesn't have a z380. Ademir gave up from it when he realized that
it had to be slowed down too much to access the other components.
My Ciel has a 10 mhz z80, although running a 7 mhz due to compatibility
issues. the new ones will have a z180 running at 33 mhz.
> How deals 32bit-addresses ?
> Please, give me some details about that machine. I have very few info about
> it. (I'm not an investigator. I'm only a poor programmer)
Well, it's ok. I'll collect some info about it and i'll send it to you ,
ok?
best regards,
Mauricio Braga.
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