Hi all,

If you do not have to use syntactic parser, it is possible to utilize a discriminative parser for word reordering, such as STIR (http://research.google.com/pubs/pub37163.html, but no implementation available) or LADER (http://www.phontron.com/paper/neubig12emnlp-reordering.pdf, implementation available at https://github.com/neubig/lader).

Best,

Hwidong Na
POSTECH, Korea

On 04/04/2014 01:54 AM, Benjamin Körner wrote:

Hi Maxim, hi all,

in an undergraduate class we were working on a automatic rule extraction and source-side preordering system as a preprocessing step for English- Japanese. At the moment I'm writing my BA thesis on this stuff. It works with Moses and cdec and since it is just preprocessing it should work with any other decoder.

If you exchange the parser and maybe some of the parameters it should work for every language pair. We get BLEU score improvement in intrinsic evaluation (right now with a 1,7 mio sentence eng-jap patent corpus).

The idea came from Genzel http://research.google.com/pubs/archive/36484.pdf

Also check our final presentation slides of our implemention @ https://www.cl.uni-heidelberg.de/studies/projects/poster/hitschler_koerner_ohta2013.pdf

Best,

Benjamin

*Von:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Milos Stanojevic
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 3. April 2014 16:12
*An:* Hieu Hoang
*Cc:* moses-support; [email protected]
*Betreff:* Re: [Moses-support] Implementation of pre-reordering for German and other languages

Hi Maxim,

You can check this paper: http://aclweb.org/anthology//P/P11/P11-2067.pdf <http://aclweb.org/anthology/P/P11/P11-2067.pdf>

It says: "CKK uses the Dubey and Keller (2003) parser, which is trained on the Negra corpus (Skut et al., 1997)."

Regards,

Milos Stanojevic

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I don't know of an implementation that's available for download and I seem to remember that the parser they used was extremely difficult to use or compile.

If you find out more, please let everyone know

On 25 March 2014 17:07, Maxim Khalilov <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear Moses community,

    I am looking for a ready to use or easily customizable
    implementation of pre-reordering algorithms for Moses? In
    particular, I'm interested in language pairs with German as a
    source language and a variety of languages as target, so probably
    the best solution is syntax based.

    As a starting point, I would consider the algorithm described in
    (Collins et al., 2005), but I don't know if there is an
    implementation available and which parser it relies on.

    Thanks for your help beforehand,

    Maxim Khalilov

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