Hi,
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Pau Giner <[email protected]> wrote: > I created versions of the different options we are discussing (to try, > access beta wiki <http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo> > with > the test users indicated below): > > > - A: Panel opens with both up and down arrows (user: mv-both, > password: 123) > - B: Up and down keys act as default for scroll (user: mv-none, > password: 123) > - C: Provide image and data on a continuous page (user: mv-page, > password: 123) > > I'm ok with A or B. I think A provides a better solution to the user > intent (view the metadata), while avoiding diverging from the standard > scrolling direction too much. If A still generates confusion, I'm ok to > default to the browser defaults, but I think the line-by-line increment > will led most people to unnecessary additional key presses. > > I think that changing completely the metaphor we are using (as in C), will > bring more problems than benefits (e.g., what to do with the controls over > the image). > > I'll do some quick tests with some users, but feel free to provide your > impressions when trying the above. > Option B seemed the best to me based on these prototypes. With Option A, it was slightly confusing that the same button opens and closes the metadata panel for the cursor keys, but the opposite direction is needed while using the mousewheel or the pagedown/page up buttons, and the space key did not work to close the metadata panel as would have been expected (it has no directional alternative). With option B, the directions were as I would have expected (down button opens, up button closes, same with page down and page up, and the mousewheel;again the space button was an exception). Visually, I would have preferred the smoother style of movement one gets with using either the page down or the space button. (Using the cursors was less smooth than using the mousewheel, which in turn was slightly less smooth to be entirely pleasing.) It is probably an artifact of the prototype, but Option C did not work well while using the non-cursor options because the page does not end at the end of the content and there was a huge black area. Best regards, Bence > > > Pau > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Quiddity <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 14-06-06 02:34 AM, Gilles Dubuc wrote: >> >>> I think that picking isolated websites (gmail or medium) isn't enough to >>> get a sense of what the average user's expectation is. These two >>> particular examples aren't necessarily the best for other reasons: >>> Google products and Gmail in particular have always had very >>> engineer-minded keyboard shortcuts because engineers rule the culture at >>> Google. That's not necessarily the best thing for accessibility if you >>> don't have that culture. As for Medium, it's too new to have proven >>> itself as something with good accessibility. Maybe a lot of people are >>> getting confused by medium's interface, we wouldn't know. >>> >>> >> >> Possibly, it would help to re-word the way we're understanding these 2 >> examples, into the abstracts that they represent:- >> >> In line- or list-item-highlights, like email programs (Thunderbird, etc), >> or file managers, or spreadsheets, or drop-down menus: >> - Clicking the keyboard down-arrow will move the highlight downwards by >> exactly one (1). >> >> In full-window-highlights, like a PDF-viewer, or image-viewer, or webpage: >> - Clicking the keyboard down-arrow will make the content scroll-upwards. >> (by a variable amount, depending on OS, program, and user-settings. >> Sometimes 1 line, sometimes 3 lines, sometimes x pixels.) >> >> (and similar results for left/right arrow-keys) >> >> HTH. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Multimedia mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia >> > > > > -- > Pau Giner > Interaction Designer > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Multimedia mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia > >
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