Correct, better not rely on thumb.php, the servers will just generate
the thumb if it is not yet present on the canonical address yet, that
Special:Redirect can point you at.

Also, almost all this info can be retrieved in one go from the api.php
of course:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=File:30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg&prop=imageinfo&iilimit=50&iiprop=sha1|url|thumbmime|extmetadata|archivename&iiurlwidth=640&iilimit=1

Lists almost all the info of the latest revision of the file.

DJ

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Daniel Schwen <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was told thumb.php is evil (for lack of caching).
> I'm using special:redirect with the width=640 parameter.
> Daniel
>
> On Sep 4, 2014 5:49 AM, "Jean-Frédéric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> > The first three we can get from pretty much either API, or extract
>>>> > directly from
>>>> > a dump file. The latter is eluding us though, for two reasons. One is
>>>> > that a
>>>> > file, like 30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg, is actually in the /b/ba/
>>>> > directory -
>>>> > but where this /b/ba/ comes from (a hash?) is unclear to us now, and
>>>> > it's not
>>>> > something we find in the dumps - though we can get it from one of the
>>>> > APIs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, /b/ba ist based on the first two digits of the MD5 hash of the
>>> title:
>>>
>>> md5( "30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg" ) -> ba253c78d894a80788940a3ca765debb
>>>
>>> But this is "arcane knowledge" which nobody should really rely on. The
>>> canonical
>>> way would be to use
>>>
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Redirect/file/30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg
>>>
>>> Which generates a redirect to
>>>
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg
>>>
>>> To get a thumbnail, you can directly manipulate that URL, by inserting
>>> "thumb/"
>>> and the desired size in the correct location (maybe Special:Redirect can
>>> do that
>>> for you, but I do not know how):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg/640px-30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg
>>
>>
>> If I am not mistaken you can use thumb.php to get the needed thumb?
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/thumb.php?f=Example.jpg&width=100>
>>
>> (That’s what I used in my CommonsDownloader [1])
>>
>> [1]
>> <https://github.com/Commonists/CommonsDownloader/blob/master/commonsdownloader/thumbnaildownload.py>
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> --
>> Jean-Frédéric
>>
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