I can take a peek at the video playback; I've got a Windows 10 Tech Preview
install handy.

With the experimental ogv.js JavaScript shim in playback seems fine on my
test pages (eg <http://ogvjs-testing.wmflabs.org>) but we haven't deployed
that to production yet as it needs a few more bug fixes.

I'll test with the WebM IE plugin; that ought to "just work" on both IE
9/10/11 and the tech preview... but it sounds like we've got poor behavior
when the plugin's not installed, where it *should* be prompting to install
the plugin currently rather than giving a raw download.

-- brion

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Roan Kattouw <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Actually copying in the multimedia mailing list correctly this time.
>
> Note: this mailing list is open to the public, and any emails you send
> to it will be publicly archived forever at
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/multimedia . This is standard
> fare for Wikimedians, but the Microsoft people on this thread may not
> be used to this.
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Roan Kattouw <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Copying in:
> > * Multimedia team because this concerns video playback
> > * Oliver because he maintains ua-parser
> > * Erik Z because he maintains browser statistics
> > * Timo because he cares about browsers and relationships with the browser
> > communities
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Rob Macias (Axelerate)
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As you may have heard, we rolled out a new Windows 10 preview build with
> >> significant IE interoperability updates and wanted to make sure our
> >> Wikipedia partners are in the loop. A major part of this update is the
> >> “Edge” mode platform, which seems to affect how IE is being detected –
> this
> >> is leading to Video playback errors when visiting the wikimedia.org
> domain.
> >> More info on ‘living on the edge’ exists here
> >>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/11/11/living-on-the-edge-our-next-step-in-interoperability.aspx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To our Wikipedia folks:
> >>
> >> Mind taking a look at this? Bug detail has been pasted below including
> >> steps to reproduce and developer notes. If you aren’t already a member
> of
> >> the Windows Insider Program, we recommend doing so OR you can download
> >> RemoteIE, which provides another option for testing your site in the
> latest
> >> version of IE.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'm not aware of us being a member. Timo, could you look into whether we
> > are, and whether we should be?
> >
> > RemoteIE looks really useful. It doesn't seem to be available for Ubuntu
> > though? Our engineering staff is split roughly 50/50 between Mac OS and
> > Ubuntu / other Linux flavors, so if RemoteIE is only available for
> Windows
> > and Mac OS on desktop, then it's only useful for about half our staff.
> But
> > that's still a heck of a lot better than passing a Windows laptop around
> the
> > office :)
> >
> >>
> >> (Bug Specs)
> >>
> >> Reference #: 741977
> >>
> >> Description of the Problem: commons.wikimedia.org: Video is not being
> >> played
> >>
> >> Steps to Reproduce:
> >>
> >> 1. Navigate to URL: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page.
> >>
> >> 2. Scroll down to video window
> >>
> >> 3. Invoke Play button to play video/ audio on the page.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Actual Result:
> >>
> >> Video is not being played only black screen is displayed and instead of
> >> playing video, it is asking  to save the file.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Expected Result:
> >>
> >> Video should load and play properly.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Multimedia team, could you guys look into this?
> >
> >>
> >> Developer Notes:
> >>
> >> With the introduction of the Edge mode platform, the site needs to
> account
> >> for the latest UA string changes. See below:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.4; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like
> Gecko)
> >> Chrome/36.0.1985.143 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.0
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> These changes help prevent IE from being (incorrectly) identified as an
> >> earlier version.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Thanks for letting us know that the UA string changed.
> >
> > Timo, Oliver and Erik Z: you guys should know about this UA string
> change.
> > It'll affect jquery.client, ua-parser, our browser stats, and probably
> other
> > bits of code here and there that will presumably identify this UA as
> Chrome
> > 36 rather than IE 12.
> >
> >>
> >> Please let me know if you have an estimated timeframe to address this
> >> issue, and if our team can further assist in this process.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Most likely, someone on the multimedia team will file a ticket for this
> in
> > our public bug tracker, which you can subscribe to.
> >
> > Roan
>
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