Dear Benoit and Thiemo, Thanks so much for your thoughtful responses to this question, which are much appreciated :)
We’ll add a summary of your recommendations on this Phabricator ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76680 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76680> Others are welcome to chime in there as well. Look forward to wrapping up this feature in coming days. Be well, Fabrice > On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Benoît Evellin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > Thank you for this improvement. IMHO, this is enough: power users know how to > copy/paste a link or a short wikicode. This file name feature is not for > general public use. I hope more newbies will use VisualEditor, and they do > not need this feature. > > The "File:" prefix is optional: it is automaticaly added by the interface > (and translated). If you type wikicode, you know how to add a prefix. > > Is it possible to have VisuelEditor's media editing box on vector and > monobook? This may convict power user not to ask for this kind of feature. > > Best, > Benoît > > On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:28 AM, Thiemo Mättig <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Fabrice, > > here is my very quick, personal response to your questions. > > > They can already copy the file name [...] from the Share or Embed panels > > I just tried that and no, I can't copy the file name from these panels > because I can not select the file name. The fields are blocked. I would have > to copy everything and remove not needed parts later, which I find > counter-intuitive and non-practical. Please see > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/177786/ > <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/177786/> > > > 2. Is the placement below the license practical? > > It's a good compromise, in my opinion. > > > 3. Should we include ‘File:’ before the file name? > > In my opinion, no, don't include the namespace. It's not needed in most cases > (galleries, templates, VE) and may require different localizations in > specific cases. Long-time users may request it just because they are used to > it but I think the arguments for *not* adding the namespace should win. > > Best > Thiemo > 2014-12-05 1:57 GMT+01:00 Fabrice Florin <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > Hi folks, > > We're happy to let you know that our multimedia team has completed all the > requested 'must-have' improvements to Media Viewer for this year’s release, > based on community feedback. > > These improvements have now been released on all Wikimedia-hosted sites, as > described here: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/Media_Viewer/Improvements > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/Media_Viewer/Improvements> > > We would appreciate your advice on one last community request, which seems > important to address before we wrap up. > > Many editors have asked for a quick way to copy and paste the full file name > from Media Viewer, so they can use that file in an article without extra > clicks. > > They can already copy the file name from the URL, or from the Share or Embed > panels, but have to remove extra characters, which slows them down. And now > that we have replaced the file name with a caption right below the image, > there is no easy way to copy it in Media Viewer. > > To address this issue, we propose to show the file name right below the > license label, as illustrated here: > > https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/798 > <https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/798> > > Here are a few questions we’d love your feedback on: > > > 1. Is this file name feature useful for editors? > > (We know it’s not that useful for readers, which is why we propose placing it > below the fold — but we wanted to offer it for editors who requested it, if > it’s helpful.) > > > 2. Is the placement below the license practical? > > (Note that you have to scroll down to see the file name; but that seemed > faster than placing it in the Share panel, which would be one click away and > may be harder to find.) > > > 3. Should we include ‘File:’ before the file name? > > (Does it help editors if we display ‘File:Chamonix flowers.jpg’ — instead of > just ‘Chamonix flowers.jpg’, as shown in the mockup above?) > > > 4. Any other suggestions for improvement? > > > > Please let us know what you think, so we can make any final tweaks based on > your feedback. You can respond by email to the list or just to the me and the > four team members in the Cc: line. > > We will post one last project update in a few weeks, to share our research > findings. > > > Best regards, > > > Fabrice — on behalf of the Multimedia Team > > > _______________________________ > > Fabrice Florin > Product Manager, Multimedia > Wikimedia Foundation > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF) > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)> > > > _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
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