Hi Brion,

In addition to automated bitrate adjustments, can there be a way for users
to manually adjust their bitrates or quality settings on the fly without
changing resolutions or file formats?

Not meaning to be ungrateful, but I think that improving HD video playback
in IE and Safari should take precedence as a priority. I tried watching one
of Victor's HD WEBM fundraising videos on a 4K display in Safari, and my
user experience went from amazing to awful as soon as playback started in
low-def OGV.

Thanks,

Pine
On May 24, 2016 09:44, "Brion Vibber" <bvib...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> In the past, we've had a mixture of fixed bitrates and quality-based
> settings for producing video transcodes.
>
> Each has its advantages: fixed bitrates are more predictable for watching
> while streaming, while fixed quality settings allow for reducing the
> bitrate on low-complexity scenes to save bandwidth (and increasing it on
> high-complexity scenes to keep quality up!)
>
> Since "download and watch it later" is less of a thing on today's internet
> than "stream it right now!", I'd been leaning for a while towards moving
> more things to fixed bitrates. However, I'm starting to come down on the
> side of a fixed quality setting with a variable bitrate...
>
> Overall variable rate encoding should lead to lower bandwidth usage for
> most parts of most files, while still maintaining high quality on scenes
> that need it.
>
>
> The downside is that a high-complexity scene encoded at a higher bitrate
> might cause buffering to run out during playback that had been working ok
> on earlier scenes at a lower bitrate.
>
> Once we support adaptive streaming (using MPEG-DASH, or something like it)
> the system should be able to provide a detailed enough manifest[1] to show
> which segments of the file are low-bandwidth and which are high-bandwidth,
> so if there's a bandwidth limitation that stops us from viewing one
> particular segment at the current resolution, we can bump down and then
> bump resolution back up again when the bandwidth usage goes down.
>
> If there's no strong objection, I'm going to tinker with the quality
> settings for WebM and Ogg Theora video transcodes to try to find quality
> settings I'm happy with that result in reasonable bandwidth averages.
>
>
> [1] An MPEG-DASH manifest (.mpd) specifies a target bitrate on each
> resolution representation, but the actual segments can be different sizes.
> When they're specified as byte ranges of a source file, the exact segment
> size is conveniently available!
>
> -- brion
>
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