Hi Stig/Carlos,

I vote ofr Stig's proposal of making the flag A mechanism optional but keeping 
it in the I-D (option 3).  My only caveat would be if this requires a lot of 
work on the part of the Authors to update the I-D as I think we should wrap up 
this document sooner rather than later.  If Option 3 requires too much 
documentation effort then I vote for option 2.



Akbar

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Stig Venaas
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 2:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [multimob] WG Poll about the inclusion or not of flag A mechanism 
in draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization

It would be great to get input from more people in the WG on this issue.

Stig

On 4/10/2013 10:48 AM, Stig Venaas wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm responding here with my personal view, and hopefully also the same
> as I was saying in the meeting.
>
> On 4/10/2013 12:49 AM, LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> After the Orlando meeting discussions on the flag A mechanism described
>> in draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization-02 for mitigating the
>> internal signaling within the network in case of reactive handover, we
>> would like to consult WG members about your preference:
>>
>> Option 1.- To include the flag A mechanism as an integral (and
>> mandatory) part of the solution, as described in the draft today.
>>
>> Option 2.- To consider the flag A mechanism as an option to reduce
>> signaling in the core, then removing the reference to this mechanism
>> from the draft. The final document would consider that the LMA always
>> queries the pMAG by default, but mentioning that some mechanism
>> (out-of-scope) could be used to reduce this signaling (by avoiding to
>> query the pMAG).
>
> Wouldn't a 3rd option be to keep it in the draft, but not make the A
> flag mandatory to implement/enable? I think that may require additional
> work though, because you may need to know whether the A flag is being
> used. Basically you need to know that A flag not set, doesn't mean that
> there is no subscription when A-flag support isn't enabled.
>
> My concern is that the A-flag mechanism may not be worth the effort, or
> even worse, if clients often switch between having multicast
> subscriptions and not (basically that A is frequently often updated).
> If the A flag is mostly stable, then I think it is useful.
>
> So at least my thinking is that unless we know with some certainty what
> the usage pattern is, then it is better to make it optional. If we agree
> on making it optional, then the question is whether we still want it in
> this document (option 2 or 3).
>
> Hope we can get the input of several people in the group and try to
> figure out what the best option is.
>
> Stig
>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Luis
>>
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