Hi

On 5/1/2013 12:35 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
Hi authors,

On page 21,

The MN1 will send an
        MLD Report message (containing an State Change Record for the
        last subscribed multicast group with a filter change record mode
        indicating INCLUDE mode and an empty source list) to the MAG to
        request the cease of the multicast traffic delivery.


In RFC 3810, on Page 22,

A MODE_IS_INCLUDE Record is never sent
              with an empty source list.


MODE_IS_INCLUDE is used when there is no state change. It is not used
for a State Change Record. Here the state changes, and you would send
a State Change Record with "CHANGE_TO_INCLUDE_MODE" with no sources
if previously EXCLUDE, or if INCLUDE and all sources left, then a
Source List Change Record with BLOCK_OLD_SOURCES.

FYI, this text in RFC 3810 6.1 is relevant:

   the table below.  If no per-interface state existed for that
   multicast address before the change (i.e., the change consisted of
   creating a new per-interface record), or if no state exists after the
   change (i.e., the change consisted of deleting a per-interface
   record), then the "non-existent" state is considered to have an
   INCLUDE filter mode and an empty source list.

I think the text in the draft is fine. But it does specify more detail
than needed. Maybe it could just say that an MLD Report message is sent
to the MAG to request the cease of the multicast traffic delivery.

After all, what we're talking of, is the normal MLD behavior of a host
that is no longer interested. I don't see the need to go into further
detail.

Stig

The API defined in RFC 3810 does allow the stop listening operation but
the above seems not the right way.
RFC 3810 defines soft leave which is based on timers.

As I raised during Orlando meeting, this stop listening operation seems
to be integrated into the source lists, i.e. not applicable to ASM.

 From the charter point of view, this may not be a problem because the
scope specifically mentions MLDv2/IGMPv3.

I repeat my suggestion on the A flag from Feb. 25:
If a feasible solution emerges and WG believes that there is a need then
a separate draft can be written and individual Handover drafts can use it.

i.e. Option 3.

Behcet

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:16 PM, LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear all,

    We have just uploaded an updated version of
    draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization.

    This new version includes some clarification text according to the
    last comments received and minor editorial improvements.

    All the content related to the multicast activity indication
    procedure remains as in the previous version, waiting for the
    discussion results and the decisions of the next meeting in Orlando.

    Thanks, best regards,

    Luis

    -----Mensaje original-----
    De: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>]
    Enviado el: lunes, 25 de febrero de 2013 23:11
    Para: LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
    CC: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    Asunto: New Version Notification for
    draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization-02.txt


    A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization-02.txt
    has been successfully submitted by Luis M. Contreras and posted to
    the IETF repository.

    Filename:        draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization
    Revision:        02
    Title:           PMIPv6 multicast handover optimization by the
    Subscription Information Acquisition through the LMA (SIAL)
    Creation date:   2013-02-25
    Group:           multimob
    Number of pages: 47
    URL:
    
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization-02.txt
    Status:
    http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization
    Htmlized:
    http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization-02
    Diff:
    
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-multimob-handover-optimization-02

    Abstract:
        This document specifies a multicast handover optimization mechanism
        for Proxy Mobile IPv6 to accelerate the delivery of multicast
    traffic
        to mobile nodes after handovers.  The mechanism is based on speeding
        up the acquisition of mobile nodes' multicast context by the mobile
        access gateways.  To do that, extensions to the current Proxy Mobile
        IPv6 protocol are proposed.  These extensions are not only
    applicable
        to the base solution for multicast support in Proxy Mobile IPv6, but
        they can also be applied to other solutions being developed to avoid
        the tunnel convergence problem.  Furthermore, they are also
        independent of the role played by the mobile access gateway within
        the multicast network (either acting as multicast listener discovery
        proxy or multicast router).




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