Who issues and manages and guarantees the ID information on the card? The
bank? Or the government? That is absolutely crucial.

Anders: Do you know any details of the technology used for the ID?

Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Rundgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 4:31 PM
Subject: [Muscle] A combined EMV and ID card


> A combined EMV and ID card
> ----------------------------------
>
> In Sweden banks are gearing up (in "bank-speed"...) for
> issuing combined EMV and ID-cards.  The reason behind that
> is to reuse the card infrastructure as well as due to the fact
> that banks already are ID-issuers.  This system apparently
> already exists in Norway although not in electronic form yet.
>
> Technically I see no difficulties with this, but my (open) question
> is if this should be considered as a short-term "fix" or a viable
> long-term scheme even on a global scale.
>
> Personally I have some problems with mixing an "account" which
> is a potentially sharable resource, with an "ID" which is not legal
> to share with others, as well as a nuisance to be without.  That is, if
> I let my kids pay for something on the Internet, I will using a "combo"
> card give them a "passport" to possibly a myriad of other things as
> well.  To have different PIN-codes may be a possibility but most
> people don't appreciate multiple PIN-codes.  I am one of them :-)
>
> Currently this is "theory" as EMV on the Internet is still mostly
> a dream.  ID on the other hand is for real.
>
> Regarding Internet-payments, it seems that you long-term, rather
> would give other valid [and properly authenticated] users of an
> account, an "entitlement" to perform certain payments using
> 3D Secure-like schemes instead of requesting credit cards for your
> kids (or employees).  Because then, You, the account owner can
> administer and monitor account sharing yourself in the on-line bank
> holding the account.  Probably, banks will find this idea slightly
> "challenging", but it is indeed a logical next step.
>
> It looks to me that the need for secure IDs is much bigger than
> the need for secure "payment-tokens" if we restrict the scope to
> Internet-payments.
>
> Just my 0.2 EUR
>
> Anders Rundgren
> Consultant, PKI & e-Business
> +46 70 - 627 74 37
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