Thanks for these comments, very usefull, I have been informed that the
card I have is the openplatform JavaCard.
Can I, in that case, remove the opensc /openct stuff and just stick with
pcsc and MuscleCard??? or does Muscle card still require bits from
them?? 
I have installed the MuscleTool and associated plugins for the cyberflex
card, however, when I run muscletool and enter "tokens" it says there
are no valid tokens found.
I assume from this that I need to use the loader software previously
mentioned and load the muscle applet onto the card?

As previously mentioned .....
Get http://vrweb.de/~martin.buechler/smartcard/CFlexAccess32Loader.zip
and http://home.vr-web.de/~martin.buechler/smartcard/loaderlibs.tgz and
you
should be able to load the MUSCLE applet on the card. Once that's done,
you
can use muscleTool and the MUSCLE pkcs11 framework to use the card.

.........do I need to install the CFlexAccess32Loader.zip software onto
a windows machine? and upload the applet before using the card with
muscle tool (I was unable to extract the .zip files under Gentoo Linux
so I am assuming that its windows based)

Thanks once again for your help
:-)

John

Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:55:01 -0500
From: Chaskiel M Grundman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Muscle] Cyberflex e-gate card
To: MUSCLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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--On Wednesday, March 31, 2004 14:28:01 -0300 Nelson Murilo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> The cyberflex card is a java card with no filesystem. opensc does not
>> support it. MUSCLE does support it.
>> 
>  
> Maybe this is not correct:
> 
> debian:~# opensc-tool -a
> Connecting to card in reader Schlumberger E-Gate...
> Using card driver Schlumberger Multiflex/Cryptoflex.
> Card ATR: 3B 95 18 40 FF 62 01 02 01 04 ;[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Axalto/Schlumberger sells two different types of e-gate cards

Cryptoflex cards have an iso7816-like filesystem and support some
iso7816-4
commands. opensc supports these cards. The muscle framework supports
also
supports these cards.

Cyberflex cards are openplatfom javacards with no filesystem. opensc
does
not support these cards. the muscle framework supports these cards if
the
muscle applet is installed.

The "class not supported" error reported by [EMAIL PROTECTED] does
indicate a cyberflex card. (cryptoflex cards use a CLA byte of 0xC0 for
many  commands. openplatform java cards usually only support CLA bytes
of
00, 0x80 and 0x84 (in addition to any CLA bytes supported by add-on
applets
installed on the card.))




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