Thanks Karsten,

The thing is, I am not too much familiar with MUSCLE, we were using
opensc in a project to test smartcard enabled PKI applications so we
need to hold the certificates with the keypair on the card. Also, we
were using javacard based cards because of future needs of building
javacard applications on it. Before the test we have bought a number of
JCOP21id cards but they are not fully supported because of secure
messaging requirement.

So I just wanted to know if maybe this is supported in Muscle to help me
implement it in opensc or maybe to make me go to Muscle. What are the
main differences between the Muscle and opensc? I have heard Muscle has
some limitations regarding my "cryptograhic needs"? Sorry to bother
you...

thanks very much

regards

dejan gambin

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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Muscle] JCOP21id with secure messaging support


Gambin Dejan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> would like to know if JCOP21id is fully supported by Muscle regarding 
> the secure messaging/channel requirement? Is this protocol implemented

> in Muscle? If it is, where in the code?

No.

> I have a number of JCOP21id cards that I need to fully suport.

What is your task?

You want to use the secure channels? What means need? Is the integrity 
and confidentiality really important? Is the card user the same like the

card issuer (Else this does not work, because the user has access to the

secret keys of the card issuer and can install untrusted applications. 
Aside from this, this means that the user has to enter every time these 
secret keys or at least a pass phrase for the encryption of the keys (if

these keys are stored encrypt on a media) (storing this keys in plain 
text would violate any idea of this system.) at each computer system. At

the keyboard. In an untrusted environment the system knows the keys and 
the whole secure channel system is broken ...)

If you are adept with this technology then you certainly know all the 
above things and an adaption of MuscleCard is possible.

Karsten

> 
> thanks very much
> 
> regards, dejan
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