Yes, I feel it's the right way too.
good luck!

Sebastien

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Ray Caruso GMAIl <[email protected]>wrote:

> Thank you all for your answers. You have pointed me in the right direction.
> I found a resource for each card I need to support that provides the
> specific PDUs I need to send to get the data I am need.
>
> Beat regards,
>
> On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:53 PM, Sébastien Lorquet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does this data have a link with what is returned by INIT UPDATE? In this
> case this identifier may not be unique.
>
> Sebastien
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Michael StJohns < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  If your card is a global platform card -
>>
>> 1) Select the default security domain
>> 2) do a get data on  00 42 and 00 45  (80 CA 00 42 , 80 CA 00 45).  The
>> first is the issuer identification number, the second is the card image
>> number.
>>
>> Either or both of these may be set depending on the issuer of the card.
>> Pre-issue cards probably don't have these set.
>>
>> Also (both for GP and non GP cards), if the ATR historical bytes begin
>> with 80, those bytes may include an issuer and card number or may point to a
>> file on the card which contains them - get a copy of ISO 7816-4 for details.
>>
>>
>> Later, Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:30 PM 3/10/2010, Ray Caruso wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for the reply. I am sorry about mis-forming the get data PDU- I
>> truely doubt it required that type of response- it did seem a little rude. I
>> should have written XX CA 00 00 00 where XX being the class and I am not
>> sure which instruction class to use. I used FF as a bitmask way of indicated
>> wild carding because all 1's can always be OR'd in.
>>
>> I am reading a manual that states the following:
>>
>>  "The appliance will query the smart card for a unique ID, which is a
>> portion of a reply from a “get data†application protocol data unit
>> (APDU) command. The ID contains unique information such as the smart card
>> manufacturer, smart card chip manufacturer, chip type, batch number, etc
>> that identifies a particular card from other cards."
>>
>> I need to emulate the behavior of the appliance. I am able to verify the
>> card token during development.
>>
>> Thanks Again.
>>
>> On 3/10/2010 11:13 AM, Sébastien Lorquet wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Â
>>  As I understand, every smart card has a unique IDÂ
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, that single statement is not true.
>> Well, it's not even true at the chip level (I guess every manufacturer has
>> its own system) but there is no standard way to get this "unique number" in
>> the same manner for all cards in the world.
>>
>> Each card model *may* support an unique id, but it is specific to the card
>> model, as well as the method to retrieve it.
>>
>>  that is accessible without security.
>>
>>
>> Â
>>  I need to read this ID from any card within a reader. I have spent some,
>> but not enough, quality time with the ISO 7816-4 spec and understand the
>> formation of smart card request and response APDUs (at least I think I do).
>> I have read that I need to use the get data command as follows:
>>
>> FF CA 00 00 00
>>
>>
>> Nice. You need to spend more time on ISO7816 as the FF class is invalid,
>> it's not a card command but (maybe) a reader command or something else.
>>
>> Moreover if such a magic command existed, someone would have mentioned it
>> somewhere in google.
>> Â
>>
>> However, this fails to provide the correct ID.
>>
>>
>> Sure. Do you at least know what *is* the correct ID you're expecting? :-)
>>
>> Â
>>  Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> First detect the card model in some way, then pray for the card to provide
>> a mean to identify itself, then issue the appropriate valid commands to get
>> it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sebastien
>>
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