As an added note, if you use Tomcat at the minimum, then you really are using J2EE. So it's not a pure J2SE app. As Bogdan pointed out, in Muse, the web service endpoints communicate via HTTP, which is a J2EE component.
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Jemiolo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: New to Muse - Concepts I've always used Tomcat5.0/Axis2 as my primary dev/test environment for Muse, so you could say that Muse works best in that environment. :) Of course, we have also done a lot of work for OSGi support in the last three releases, and you should find that to be comparable as far as level of quality/robustness; your decision comes down to which environment (Tomcat vs. OSGi) is most comfortable for you. Dan "Nelson Kotowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/21/2007 03:09:19 PM: > As a matter of fact, i just came from executing OGSA-DAI WSI/WSRF tutorial, > which makes use of Tomcat/Axis, among other things :) > > Now, i was trying to find a way to develop WSRF-compliant grid > services, without using proprietary grid middleware (such as Globus > Toolkit, Websphere, etc). On OGSA site i found out about Apache Muse. > > If i had a way to develop a WSRF-compliant grid service with Tomcat + Axis + > Muse + J2SE, that would be great. > > From what i could gather from Bogdan and you, Dan, it would be > possible to > do so via that bundle, correct? > > It's just that it is quite hard to find out material/reviews from > people who > developed a WSRF-compliant without GT4, Websphere, etc. They are quite great > in what they stand for, but right now i am not allowed to use them. > > Best regards, > NPKF. > > > On 8/21/07, Daniel Jemiolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > If you go down that route, you're going to end up rewriting an HTTP > > server/app container yourself... which is probably not something you want > > to take on. If you're concerned about footprint, try Tomcat 5.0's embedded > > server - it's quite small (even smaller than the Axis2 + Muse bundle > > you're going to put on top of it). After stripping out the stuff I > > didn't want, > > I've gotten embedded Tomcat 5 down to 5 MB. Axis2 is ~10 MB, Muse > > adds > > ~1.5 > > MB. If you use our mini SOAP engine, you can lose the Axis2 > > footprint as > > well. > > > > If footprint is not your concern, though, you're best off going with > > a simple Tomcat/Axis2 install... > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > "Nelson Kotowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/21/2007 02:42:09 PM: > > > > > Hi Solomon, > > > > > > Thanks for answering. > > > > > > You mean that one might then use J2SE + Axis2 to implement a Muse > > resource? > > > That would be what i was looking for. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Nelson Kotowski. > > > > > > > > > On 8/21/07, Bogdan Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From my understanding you can not implement it as a pure J2SE > > application, > > > > you need some form of container, be it a J2EE Application Server > > (Axis2 > > or > > > > Mini), or OSGi platform. > > > > > > > > The resources that you create with Muse are accessed as web > > > > service endpoints using SOAP over HTTP, so even as an OSGi > > > > deployment over > > J2SE > > > > you > > > > will need an HTTP access to it (the default deployment uses > > > > Eclipse Equinox's HTTP Server). > > > > > > > > > > > > Nelson Kotowski wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I have a newbie question, i read in the Muse site that applications > > may > > > > be > > > > > developed using J2EE or OGSi. > > > > > > > > > > I understand that J2EE provides means for developing SOAP oriented > > > > > applications, but Is there a was to develop services using > > > > > J2SE > > purely, > > > > > along with Muse libraries, ou J2SE by adding some other libraries? > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if my question makes much sense, bu anyway, it's > > > > > a > > newbie > > > > > question :) > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > Nelson P K Filho. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > View this message in context: > > > > http://www.nabble.com/New-to-Muse---Concepts-tf4299821.html#a12260436 > > > > Sent from the Muse User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
