Robert,

Thanks, excellent writeup! 

Now I wonder, if I drop the condition that it shall be a polynomial and replace 
the term (1-u^2)^N with (0.5+0.5*cos(u*pi))^N,
wouldn’t this work in a similar way, but with less discontinous derivatives at 
the endpoints 1 and -1?

Stefan


> On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:22 , robert bristow-johnson <r...@audioimagination.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> well, it's a different approach to the same problem, but i just added my spin 
> at this on Stack Exchange. 
> http://dsp.stackexchange.com/questions/36202/monotonic-symmetrical-soft-clipping-polynomial
>  (my spin is soft clip it.)
> 
> r b-j
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Can anyone figure out this simple, but apparently 
> wrong, mixing technique?
> From: "Bjorn Roche" <bj...@shimmeo.com>
> Date: Mon, December 12, 2016 8:45 am
> To: gjberc...@charter.net
> "A discussion list for music-related DSP" <music-dsp@music.columbia.edu>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 6:35 PM, <gjberc...@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> >>Message: 1
> >> >>Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 14:31:37 -0500
> >> >>From: "robert bristow-johnson" <r...@audioimagination.com>
> >> >>To: music-dsp@music.columbia.edu
> >> >>Subject: [music-dsp] Can anyone figure out this simple, but apparently
> >> >> wrong, mixing technique?
> >> >
> >> >>it's this Victor Toth article:?http://www.vttoth.
> >> com/CMS/index.php/technical-notes/68 and it doesn't seem to make sense to
> >> me.
> >> >>
> >> >>it doesn't matter if it's 8-bit offset binary or not, there should not
> >> be a multiplication of two signals in the definition.
> >> >>i cannot see what i am missing. ?can anyone enlighten me?
> >>
> >> Search for "automixer". The author is not mixing individual samples, he
> >> is using observed signal magnitudes (that have time constants associated
> >> with them) to determine desired signal magnitudes, and from those
> >> desired magnitudes he is calculating channel gains.
> >>
> >> At least I hope that's what he's doing.
> >>
> 
> i think that the Toth article *is* mixing audio samples.
> 
> 
> > I've seen people reference this article on StackOverflow. Regardless of
> > intention, it seems like it is causing some confusion. Here's a reference
> > that seems illuminating:
> >
> > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32019246/how-to-mix-pcm-audio-sources-java
> >
> > --
> > Bjorn Roche
> > @shimmeoapp
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