>From the original email

> > anyway - the rest is a stock standard KDE kickstart - we haven't even
> > deleted any packages.

> You probably should to save some space. I doubt that musicians are
> interested in all the stuff KDE offers and be eliminating everything
> irrelevant applications, , you could in fact shift the focus more to
> music. But that's up to you.

I've done a little testing on the ISO size - see

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Fedora_jam#Size_reductions_-_some_philosophy_and_research

Other than Calligra and the games, I don't know what else we could take
out. KDE supplies Konqueror, so in *theory* we could ditch Firefox and
Thunderbird. But I've found a few things that don't work in Konqueror, so
we might get yelled at if we dropped Firefox. I wish we had Chromium; the
web audio stuff is cutting edge.


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Brendan Jones
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On 12/02/2012 10:11 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
>> Hi Brendan,
>> hi Jorn,
>>
>> sorry again for the late reply.
>>
>> Am Samstag, den 01.12.2012, 20:04 +0100 schrieb Brendan Jones:
>>
>>     - we have added a kernel boot parameter 'threadirqs' - prerequisite of
>>> the rtirq package to prioritize software IRQs (very useful for dealing
>>> with latency of audio devices)
>>>
>>
>> This is controversial, but I see nothing wrong with it. As long as there
>> is no guideline that explicitly forbids it, I am willing to allow it.
>>
>>     - we have packaged out own background and our own KDE theme. The
>>> background is simply the Spherical Cow them with a wave form
>>> superimposed (fedora-jam-backgrounds).
>>>    - we have packaged our own KDE theme - this has spherical cow as a
>>> direct dependency and is only required so we can use the background
>>> image by default (for the desktop and splash) The package is
>>> fedora-jam-kde-theme
>>>
>>
>> As long as everything is packaged, I see nothing wrong with it. This
>> being said I would rather like to have the files you add
>> to /etc/skel/.kde/ in %post as part of a package. I am not a KDE user,
>> so I don't know if it is possible or would it collide with other
>> packages.
>>
>>     - you can see the hack where we've made the logged in user a member of
>>> the audio group by default. This is required by
>>> jack-audio-connection-kit - it prioritizes processes running under this
>>> group. Again very improtant for latency issues.
>>>
>>
>> I see your point, but the modifications
>> to /usr/share/firstboot/modules/**create_user.py are a no-go. You need to
>> move the sed commands to the livesys init script, so the changes will
>> only be applied to the live system but not to the installed packages.
>> Even this is controversial (think of translations), but again as long as
>> it not explicitly forbidden, I'll turn a blind eye to it.
>>
>>  jack-audio-connection-kit packages a limits.d/ file to do this
>>>
>>
>> No problem, everything form a package is fine.
>>
>>  anyway - the rest is a stock standard KDE kickstart - we haven't even
>>> deleted any packages.
>>>
>>
>> You probably should to save some space. I doubt that musicians are
>> interested in all the stuff KDE offers and be eliminating everything
>> irrelevant applications, , you could in fact shift the focus more to
>> music. But that's up to you.
>>
>>  Anyway, please keep me updated.
>>>
>>
>> I have just approved your ks and wiki page. Please make the
>> modifications to the ks ASAP.
>>
>> Next steps:
>>       1. Get the ks into the nightlies
>>       2. Get the ks into the spins-kickstart package. Fortunately the
>>          deadline is 2012-12-11.
>>       3. Call for a meeting of the spins SIG for approval
>>       4. Get board approval
>>       5. I will add this to the board meeting agenda on Wednesday.
>>
>> I have to apologize to the two of you. I am incredibly busy with my
>> dayjob and have failed horribly as a spins wrangler, but I am trying my
>> best to get your spin in F18.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Christoph
>>
>>
>>
> Forwarding to the music-list for reference.
>
> regards,
>
> Brendan
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