2007/5/9, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On 09/05/07, mud crow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's the publisher who owns the rights to the songs, the publisher may
be
> the record label, or the artist or a totally separate company.
>
> Northern Songs is the publishing company that owns the rights to most
> Beatles songs, ATV music then bought Northern Songs, Micheal Jackson
bought
> ATV music, then Sony bought ATV music from Jackson (creating Sony/ATV
> Music).
> So now the publishing rights are owned by someone who isn't the artist
or
> the record label, but they have total control over releases and
licensing.
>
> This is why I dislike the terminology used for bootlegs on MB. A bootleg
is
> an unlicensed release.
> A release not being sanctioned by the artist or label has little to do
with
> it's legality as long as it's licensed from the publisher.

exactly right :)

also i think this should be applied universally, regardless of the
originating companies copyright laws. eg, a lot of russian labels
release unlicensed 'greatest hits' type compilations of western
artists, but these are legal in russian soil because (as far as i
know) the copyright laws their only involve paying a government body a
fee in exchange for a copyright free-for-all. however these are still
all bootlegs by all accounts, regardless of whether or not the
government allows it.

for me, bootleg = illegal. "unofficial" is a fine term but as long as
we use it from the publishers point of view, not the artists. eg, i
don't think you'll ever hear lee maver's endorsing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_La's s/t album, but he should have
thought about that before he signed on the dotted line :) the same
goes for all these profiteering artist compilations. they ain't
pretty, but they are as 'official' as anything else the artist has put
out, provided they are legal.


Although I don't agree with the Russian method, you must realize that
illegal is a very relativistic concept. If it isn't illegal in Russia, then
it must be legal there. As long as there will be at least one country which
doesn't agree, there won't be a universal  definition of what is legal and
what is not. So speaking of "legal" or "illegal" without saying where is
meaningless.

--
Frederic Da Vitoria
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