Trying to clean out the last of the issues... Classical Release Titles:
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ClassicalReleaseTitleStyle Presents a structure of: MainTitle [SubTitle(s)] [VolumeNumber [VolumeTitle]] [ [?BoxNumber [?BoxTitle]] DiscNumber [DiscTitle]] [FeaturingArtist] ------------------------------------------------------------ Unresolved Problems: * Let's ignore the (artists) part here - that's what cooperaa's proposal is trying to address, I think. Let's just deal with all the rest of it. 1) Example like http://musicbrainz.org/release/3261a468-953d-4dba-817e-a18e1d1e98b4.html where the work mentioned (Symphony 9) is actually only a single movement from the symphony. - My sense, there's no link, but if the title on the box was "The Best of Beethoven", that should be the title, and not us cramming the rest in - and thus, no need to worry about this. :) 2) Example like http://musicbrainz.org/release/37c3923f-2e6a-4ae8-898e-8201e96fe24e.html where cooperaa asked on the wiki on 1/31: "Should releases that simply say "The 5 Piano Concertos" or "The 9 Symphonies" etc be changed to "Piano Concertos Nos. 5" or "Symphonies Nos. 1-9"?" - For myself, see my answer to #1 - the work clearly shows a title of "The 5 Piano Concertos" on the box; whereas the work titles are vague and CSG should provide the role of giving them a common framework, my sense is that to then move to the titles like these and rename them would be to disregard whatever amount of ArtistIntent went into those titles. I'd reserve applying any CSG structuring of the title for those that fail to provide a title. (eg: "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart" and no title on the liner) - just glancing at that same stack of 22 or so classical CDs next to my desk, that single example would be the only one thus in need of any special "titling". -(2) The cat-corner case would be the other CD here titled "Mozart's Requiem", as to whether that is considered a generic title in need of structure, or a proper title that ought to not be "restructured". 4) http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6379094 - this is essentially the same type of point as the Requem example above: is "Symphony No. 9" a title or does it need "restructuring"? 5) How to list multiple works in titles? See CSGD #25 ( http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ClassicalStyleGuideDiscussion?highlight=%28classical%29#head-72d53d00469f041ea3a037012f514f11483a60de ). - I've seen most editors using "Klavierkonzerte Nos. 2-3", or "Klavierkonzerte No. 2-3, 5, 9"; to me this seems cleaner than any of the three alternatives suggested there. 6) Box sets - this is a different enough topic, I'm going to separate it to its own email. ------------------------------------------------------------ As I guess is clear, I agree with the unsigned comment in #4 of CSGD ( http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ClassicalStyleGuideDiscussion?highlight=%28classical%29#head-4cd5244f55d642e67169686fee82aae0f638c4e8 ) - imho, normalization of the release title should be a last resort where there truly is no release title. CSG ought to provide framework where no common framework exists. While this is true of works, it isn't true for the vast majority of release titles. Taking a "hands off" approach, albeit with minor guidance (see item #5 above) also has the benefit of being essentially cat-corner-free. :) Brian _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list [email protected] http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
