2010/3/27 Chris B <[email protected]> > but what "problems"? say this example: > " ハレンチ☆パンチ also has 3 - one does lead singing, second does rap and > some backup singing, and the third does just chorus singing. m-flo has > Verbal as rapper and various guest vocalists for the actual singing." > > so you've got: > 1) lead vocals > 2) additional lead vocals + background vocals > 3) background vocals (or chorus vocals, if that gets added) > sorted! > > even in the situation where you have two lead vocalists, who share > equal mic-time but one raps, and the other sings, do we really need > the AR to tell us who is doing what? normally it's obvious given some > cursory knowledge on the act, but surely an annotation on the artist > would cover it if need be. >
While your edit note debate point has merit, I strongly disagree with "it's obvious so we don't need to specify it". Given that logic quite a few of our relationships are redundant and unnecessary. For example, Hans Zimmer is a very well known film composer yet if you look at releases that are credited to him you'll often see that they explicitly state that Hans Zimmer composed the release - not only that but quite a few also go beyond that and state which tracks he composed on. If we have data we should be finding a way to enter that data into the database (isn't that the whole point of relationships?) with annotations only being a *last* resort. i consider these cases to not be worth the edit note debates over > whether artist a) is rapping/singing/growling/screaming, etc, it's so > grey and subjective IMO :) > > On 27 March 2010 11:45, neothe0ne <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>as i said when this was first proposed, i have problems with the more > >>>grey/subjective ones like "rap", "scream" and "growl" - see > >>>http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Talk:Advanced_Vocal_Tree for details. > > > > As already mentioned on the wiki page, without a vocal type "rap" you run > > into problems. Furthermore, many songs specifically credit a "Rap" part > > separately from the other vocals, for example, the opening and ending > songs > > for the game Tatsunoko vs Capcom (this is only the first example off the > top > > of my head). I think a rap part is needed (in addition to a chorus > part). > > -neo > Pavan Chander
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