Nancy, 

Your formula seems fair and well-reasoned.  I think that any formula can work, 
but the most important thing in my opinion is to be transparent with the 
performers.  It's really important to know what to expect and I value working 
with "open" organizers when I have my performer hat on.  

For our monthly Belfast Flying Shoes dance, we do the following:

1.  Each performer gets $100 guarantee, regardless of band size.  
2.  If a performer brings sound, they get an extra $50.  If we hire someone 
else do sound, we pay them $125.  (The $50 plus $75 for the hassle factor of 
hauling it separately and for monitoring the sound closely all night.)
3.  We take out all standard expenses (about $315, to cover hall rent and other 
expenses like door prizes, publicity expenses, website mgmt, tasty treats, etc.)
4.  Any remaining money is divided as follows:  20% to our kitty (to cover for 
snowstorm attendances, etc.)  80% to performers, divided equally.  (We have 
never had a five person band with a separately booked caller, but if we
did, we might consider something different, so as not to "penalize" the
caller for being paired with a larger than usual band.  If the caller "comes 
with" the band, we wouldn't worry about it since they'd know going into it that 
they'd not make as much as with a smaller group.)

In times of lean attendance (ah, snow and sleet in Maine!) we pay out the 
performer/sound fees first, and just cover the rest from our kitty.

Also, we have occasionally flexed our formula and given the performers a few 
dollars extra if attendance was lean and their take was particularly small and 
their drive particularly long (taking a bit less than our 20%)  Once or twice 
we paid the caller a bit less than the musicians (if the caller was me, and the 
same circumstances of small crowd and long drive applied.)

We don't have a maximum payout, but I'm curious if others do.  And if so, what 
their formula is.

Fun to hear how others handle these questions!
Chrissy

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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:29:43 -0400
> From: Dave Cain <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Organizers] Payout formula when there are 4 muscians?
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> My husband is on this list, while I'm on the caller list... so I am  
> using his sign-in to post this message.
> 
> Our dance committee is revisiting our payout formula and I'm  
> wondering how other dance organizers work their payouts when the band  
> isn't the typical trio.  (For us, a trio is the standard.) When the  
> band is a four - person (or larger) group, do you adjust your  
> guarantee and payout formula? Do you do anything different when the  
> band is a two-person band?
> 
> Currently, we split everything after expenses evenly across all  
> performers (band and caller), when the band is comprised of two or  
> three members. If the band is a four-person band, we pay our  
> guarantee, and then we split the overage 75% to the band, and 25% to  
> the caller. Our thought in doing this was not to "penalize" the  
> caller for working with a band greater than our standard of trios.
> 
> I am looking for feedback on our existing payout formula and for an  
> understanding of how other groups operate. I plan to bring any  
> feedback generated from this list to our next dance committee meeting.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Nancy Turner
> 
>

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