~~ ~~~ et tu, Tony,
now you are pretending not to have read the original Undiscovered Physics, nor the subsequent articles and discusssions on the internet. "rash judgement searching for the insights of the old ones"? the old and true ones I speak MOST highly of ... again, viz Tesla, Schauberger, Piddington, Alfven, Bostick, Carroll, Barnes ... so many. it is the CHURCH and the MILITARY and the BANKS, the global corporate state, who do not speak of, and put down, the VERY BEST natural philosophers ever known. I, on the contrary, have spoken in great detail and praise of their works, in my work, as no one on Earth has done before wholly and truly. obviously I do not waste my time, or that of my sacred terrestrial family, on further discussions of the willing mouthpieces of Church physics ... viz. the Plancks and Feynmans and Einsteins ad nauseum. read the true philosophers referenced in "Life Without Spacetime", for example: http://www.groupkos.com/mtwain/FTLpart1.pdf http://www.groupkos.com/mtwain/FTLpart2.pdf if you wish my friend to give due respect to those of us who have struggled and succeeded for the benefit of ALL humanity, bringing the WAY back to nature, in contrast to political conformity ... for all our sacred ancestors, Millennium Twain ~~ ~~~ Tony B wrote: Cum Grano Salis, MT. What can one say to such exhuberance, might it be somewhat clouded in rash judgement searching for the insights of the old ones. I would term it SophiaGnosis and the Wisdom of the Mother in harmony with the Knowledge of the Father. Your initiation into the mysteries surely have also elucidated this. Re=Alpha.RCompton=Alpha^2.RBohr1=Alpha^3/4Pi. RRydberg . Re=(HiggsBosonic) Outer-Lepton- Ring for (/hyperbolic/ catenoidal) Lambda/Neutron geometry and also the magnetoconfinement as your ellipsoidal asymmetry for ALL hadronic particles. The Mesonic-Inner- Ring for a ellipsoidal Proton geometry then reduces Re in a factor just over 1000 and then further reduces to the 'sacred' quantisation of Re in the NeutrinoKernel as Re=10^10.Lmin/360. The 'sacredness' is the radian definition as 2Pi linear becoming radius-independent unity in a seemingly 'arbitrary' degree count. So the 'quantum physics' manifests from a magnified 'Planck-Length' Lmin=4Pi.c^6.LPlanck^2.Re/G in the classical electron radius (Re) as Planck's Constant is itself finestructured as h=Lmin/2Re.c^3=Lmin/e*c in superstring parameters. Here is your factor for n=1 or 2 in the Lissajous form for Re associated with the definition of the magnetocharge as the 'curling up' of the gauge photon 'string' transforming into the 'electron string'. Deus Vobiscum! Tony B. ----- Original Message ----- From: MessiahTwain Mea Culpa, Tony! I did spend the decades in the physics establishment, and did absorb all the literature: institutional, alternative, dissident. My time in the realm of sacred teachings, the mystical, is recent and limited. I observe ALL the phenomena of the cosmos, as does the VAST institutional of corporate science -- yet wholly without the JudeoChristian promoted conclusions, which are all opposite of observation. i.e., no expansion. no big bang. no black holes, no quarks, no 'quantum limits to the femto and pico scales of measurement of the internal structure of the proton and nucleus, no church constraints on lightspeed. no photons, accept as a quantized measurement of the actual phenomena of light aka electromagnetic waves. my written work, for all who read, surpasses a hundredfold the works of my dear colleagues, including Wolff, Bostick, Carroll, Barnes, Kanarev, Piddington, Alfven, Schauberger, Tesla ... only because I DO include the observations of all true scientists of all cultures ... and forgot to obey the guilds of ignorance and servitude and DID reveal the femto- and pico-scale wavelengths and structures of the superluminal proton. and because, unlike the institution, I DID seek out and learn from, and reference and describe in great detail the peerless pioneers from our PLANETWIDE community of alternative and dissident natural philosophers. thus my hundredfold greater refinement is only the result of incorporating and the whole and the consequence of their global cultural approach to the truth of our experience of divine nature. for which I am a thousandfold humbled, for all our sacred relations, Millennium Twain http://www.groupkos.com/mtwain/ gardener, planter of trees ... ~~ ~~~ Sirebard wrote: Dear Forums! Allow me to give a brief comment on the work of Messiah Twain aka Millennium Twain aka MT, who regularly posts on sites such as related to this one. MT's 'common sense' description of the universe is rather logical and would be well supported by the mainstream in theory (say away from funding and publication pressures). MT has coined many well established concepts with new names, such as 'metricated relativity' and the 'matterverse' . MT's 'Nucleon Song', proposing a hydrogen geometrical structure for the neutron and a 'charge creation' from the 'curling up or selfclosure' of a 'linear geodetic photon' into a 'radius varying protoelectron' ; also shows a beautiful and elegant extension of the establishment. I rather like MT's basic geometry on the structure of the basic constituents of nature in charge-carrying matter particles and the 'aether-particles' of light. Here is the reference to MT's major papers in his 'Undiscovered Physics' proposal. http://www.groupkos .com/eso/ tiki-index. php?page= The+Undiscovered +Physics However MT's constant attacks and derison of the establishment serves him no constructive purpose. He fails to see, that his superpositiong of lateral and rotational wave vectors as description for the 'scalar' component for the electromagnetic field is also used by the orthodoxy (i.e. M-Theory) , as well as being understood very well indeed by the native peoples of this earth and their many unorthodox and alternative exponents (say Viktor Schauberger, whose crystalline water properties and 'harmonics' are being rediscovered by the establishment on a continuing basis). MT derides quarks and mathematical abstraction, yet fails to realise that his 'onion structure' for the proton is just the 'tentative' approach of the consensus (say in the work of Alan Krisch of Michigan). And just like Milo Wolff's Wave-Structure for Matter is indeed supported by the 'Standard Model Under Constant revison', so is MT's 'Metric Relativity'; yet it appears he cannot see the convergences. Like Milo Wolff, MT seems to bear some grudges against the historical development of physics and seems unable or unwilling to consider synthesis of his model with the former. Like Milo, MT 'plays' wordgames in relabelling generalised labels of the standard models, then claiming that the old labels are somehow too abstract or complicated and subject to revision. To say that General Relativity is 'rubbish' shows an unwarranted disrespect to the historic exponents of the physics and the sciences. A quick detailed comment, as to 'my' Quantum Relativity, might show this 'missing' convergence of so many model builders. MT derives a imo beautiful toroidal geometry in using the scalar propagation of the electromagnetic 'field'. He claims, that an 'uncharged photon' of transverse electric and magnetic orthogonal 'field-vectors' utilises its scalar nature in closing up on itself in a loop. Now this is just what the superstring theorists say, which describe the class type 1 as the only class which forms such closed loops and transforms into the open ended strings of the other classes. So imo MT's model simply describes the string transformations in reverse, where the so called Planck Boson IS type 1 and allows a sinusoidal waveform to become linearised from its circular unification. This can be seen if one looks at MT's geometry in more detail, in particular when he says, that the electromagnetic field vector 'of the helix winding around the torus surface say, is ALWAYS counterclockwise. This is precisely, what Quantum Relativity (QR) has claimed for years in association with the 'gauge bosons of the electromagnetic interaction' . The gauge photon is always clockwise and colourcharged in an exact symmetry with the likewise colourcharged antigauge photon. But the antigauge becomes suppressed (as the massless and charged precursor for the weak interaction gauges) and so one finds a 'symmetry breaking' between gauges, which CREATE the (scalar) MASS in the 'colourcharging' mapping the magnetocharge onto the electrocharge observed (and always mass associated). MT explains all this rather well in his papers on the electron, the proton and his 'proof' and so on. And of course, he uses his own labellings and not (always) those of QR or those of the standard literature. But MT DOES NOT 'overthrow the mainstream' as he so often claims - he does EXTEND it though and adding valuable new ideas and tentative calculations to it. His papers engage much of the well known relationship between the classical electron radius with the Compton/de Broglie Radius with the Bohr Radii, all as powerseries of the finestructure constant Alpha. So contrary to his statements, MT is rather mainstream in engaging those scale relationships. I like his Lissajous waveforms and topologies for this however; QR also uses the 'infinity symbol' and its tripleform in a link to the geometrical awareness of the native cultures (without abstract algebraic formalisms). This shall do and I comment further if anyone has questions as to MT's derivations and model. Below is the start of the thread as indicated by MT and Phil Carr. Best wishes to all. Tony B. ~~~~ ~~~~~~ Millennium Twain wrote: viz, Phil -- god-barf from the Church of abuse, ignorance, servitude ... great excuse for those who never learned to read or write, or walk the sacred path of culture and nature. experience is not outside our knowing. it is our only knowing! infintitely refined, divine ... Millennium Twain http://www.groupkos.com/mtwain/ --- Phil Carr <philcarr_ottawa> wrote: The issue of divine creation is a topic separate from that are the physical laws which govern our universe. No one can deny that we have such laws, e.g. the law of gravity. The fact that some laws lay outside of your personal experience makes them no less valid or no more threatening to any given view of creation than that of the law of gravity. In the end no scientist, nor relgious leader can claim to know the mind of God, we can only attempt to devine it with our crude tools, and limited imaginations to the best of our personal abilities. ~~ Millennium Twain wrote: General Relativity is whole rubbish. No correspondence with nature/experience ... none in the assumptions, none in the discussions and analysis, and none in the derivations. to say otherwise is to have never have read or studied GR, and to never have observed or discussed or studied nature before and within us. we are not discussing here wannabee physicist's abilities to behave in obediance to the strictures of the corporate state ... to be the priests of the military industry ... we are speaking here of true students of nature, in service to the divine human family, and all our sacred relations, Millennium Twain truly said, however, that Quantum Mechanics (and Special Relativity) stood up from day one proclaiming to be the voice of the JudeoChristian Church of political consumer conformity! http://www.groupkos.com/mtwain/ http://groups. yahoo.com/group/NuclearStructure/ http://groups. yahoo.com/group/NaturalPhilosopHER/ http://groups. yahoo.com/group/DiosasAncianos2012/ --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, Ray Tomes <ray@> wrote: Re: [cyclesi] Cyclical universe/Chuck/ Ray Gary wrote: > ... It is inconceivable to me that GR is considered the absolute > authority in gravity and astrophysics and that virtually all physics > departments at universities, and virtually all journal editors are so > entrenched, and simply ignore that there is no physical basis to the > theory whatsoever. Please comment. To me words like "physical basis" are a problem. That simply means that you don't have a picture in your mind. I cannot understand why anyone would have a problem with the maths of GR as it works in all known cases correctly. This is unlike QM where they change the rules whenever it gets a wrong result and pretend that it was right all along. Certainly a model is useful, but you can get a model for GR from an aether theory with either a tensile medium or a fluid medium. Many physicists do not understand this, but it has been proven convincingly that LET (Lorenz Ether Theory) gives identical predictions. If you want a push gravity then you can do it quite happily working with a fluid aether and LET and get all the same answers as GR. If you think that push gravity will get different answers then I would check your calculations very carefully. regards Ray
