Thanks for clarifying a lot of things.

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 02:35:43PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Using a large mallet, Horace G. Friend III whacked out:
> 
> > Since April 27, I noticed that ALL my mails pass through outblaze.com, a
> > Hong Kong based company that I suspect, with extreme prejudice,  allows
> > relaying of spam or could be directly involved with sending of spam
> > msgs.
> 
> Outblaze is a "third party email outsourcer".

By "third party email outsourcer", do you mean it acts as a relay for
selected clients such as mail.com? Including spammer's perhaps?

> 
> > I found out about this "go-between" because I've spent weeks trying to
> > configure my mail system to block spam and yet I still receive spam
> > (once or twice a week from 6-or-more-a-week previously). Upon checking
> > the complete headers, I noticed outblaze.com in all my mails which is
> > also marked "maybe forged" by iname.net.
>  
>  "may be forged" = forward and reverse DNS dont match.
>  

Aren't "legit mail" supposed to have matching forward and reverse DNS to
avoid having it thought of (or classified) as spam mail?

I have been a mail.com (iname.net)  client since 1994 or thereabouts but
this "outblaze.com" go-between only began in Apr 25, 2001. I keep "tons"
of my previous emails and none has been relayed from outblaze.com.

Just FYI, I recd a bulletin this weekend from iname.net about their
email software update. I checked the headers and didn't see any sign of
outblaze.com.

The only other email that I recd during the weekend w/o any sign of
outblaze.com was a newsletter from Verisign.


> > But I'd like to stop this go-between (spf4.us4.outblaze.com) becuase I
> > have recd an altered email from them. I subscribe to Java Developer
> > Connection and regularly receive bulletins from them. Last week, I rec'd
> > a msg supposedly from JDC with a 
> > "From: JDC.C&[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>  
>  Likely, outblaze's MTA qualified the mail which came with an unqualified
>  sender.
>  
> > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Apr 27 08:52:06 2001
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> likely forged
> 
[snipped]

> > Received: from spf4.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-26.outblaze.com
> > [205.158.62.26] (may be forged))
> 
> forward and reverse dns dont match - but that's not a bad or wrong thing
> 
> >     by smv05.iname.net (8.9.3/8.9.1SMV2) with ESMTP id OAA02486
> >     for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 26 Apr 2001
> >     14:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> outblaze - hands off to mail.com / iname.  Again its an internal handoff
> 
> frodo:~ dig mail.com MX
> ; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> mail.com MX 
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> mail.com.             59m23s IN MX    10 mail-com.mr.outblaze.com.
> mail.com.             59m23s IN MX    20 mail-com-bk.mr.outblaze.com.
> 
> 8<
> 
> So yeah - if you have a mail.com account - the messages WILL pass through
> outblaze.  So what's your point?
> 

I didn't know that outblaze.com acted as mail.com's MX until now. I did
send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to inquire about outblaze.com, but
all I got was an auto-reply.  How did you get the ANSWER SECTION? I must
assume :) that you used DiG 8.2.  But what is DiG 8.2? And where can I
d/l a copy? Any tips and suggestions are appreciated. :)

So my point is, I'd like this outblaze.com go-between to stop. But since
you outblaze.com acts as MX to mail.com, I probably have 2 choices:

1. complain to iname.net regarding the matter or
2. stop using mail.com

One last thing, do you know of any "clean" email forwarding service?

Thanks very much.

-- 
Horace G. Friend III
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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