Kyle Wheeler <kyle-m...@memoryhole.net> 18-Jun-09 18:31: > On Thursday, June 18 at 05:13 PM, quoth Marianne: > > Are you doing this on a Gmail IMAP folder? > > > > I had issues using mutt to link threads in Gmail as well, as described > > here: > > > > http://does-not-exist.org/mail-archives/mutt-users/msg17790.html > > > > My guess here is that it's either related to the problem I mentioned > above OR it's related to the fact that Gmail doesn't implement IMAP > correctly. > [...] > Unfortunately, many of the more creative and powerful tricks mutt can > perform with messages (e.g. connecting threads) rely on being able to > modify messages on the IMAP server---which (because IMAP provides no > method for modifying a message directly (for very good reasons)) > involves copying messages and DELETING the old ones.
Thanks! That's the explanation that must underlie this problem. It explains both that when I directly access Gmail via IMAP it removes the label, and that offlineimap deletes the mail. I didn't know that mutt does delete + copy instead of modifying the message in place. > I recommend that if you have a problem using mutt with Gmail, try > doing the same thing with some other IMAP client (ANY other IMAP > client). If it doesn't work there either, chances are it's a Gmail > problem, not a mutt problem! Well, yes, if you look at my original post that's pretty much the conclusion I came to. I still use Gmail for mailing lists that have lots of messages that I want to keep (maybe not a sensible thing, but I've to some degree fallen for the Gmail "I'll just have to use lots of space now that I have it" trick), but I've stopped cleaning up threads. > When you run into trouble while using something like offlineimap, my > first suggestion would be: try doing it without offlineimap. If it > works, then you have isolated the problem: it's an offlineimap > problem. If it still doesn't work, then you have eliminated a > potential cause, and you've made progress toward figuring out what > the real problem is. Fully aggree, and again, if you look at my initial post from December 2008 you'll find that that's what I did. Thanks again for your explanations about Gmail & IMAP and what mutt does when it links threads, that really cleared things up for me. Marianne