No, Gmail no longer allows Mutt to be used for it.  Google considers it to be a "less secure app."  Hence, they do not allow Mutt to be used with it.  I have tried and have failed since Google made that change to Gmail.

On 4/13/23 04:31, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
No, mutt can use Gmail because mutt has Oauth support built in. It's a bit complicated but you can search for instructions. That's the preferred way to use mutt with Gmail as the other method "app specific passwords" will eventually be phased out.

Please do not write me again, write to the email list.

Your questions will help many but only if they're sent to the email list.

Thank you.

David

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 05:22 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Damn, I never thought getting help configuring Mutt for my AOL
    email account would be such a big hassle.  I used to use mutt for
    my Gmail accounts, but Google, as you know, stopped allowing Gmail
    to be used with Mutt. Configuring Mutt to be used with my Gmail
    accounts was as easy as modifying my .muttrc file, nothing else. 
    Why can't someone just tell me what changes I need to make to my
    .muttrc file in order to use my AOL email account with Mutt!?  I
    copy & pasted the contents of my .muttrc file to this email group,
    didn't I?  Shouldn't it be as easy as telling me what changes I
    need to make to my .muttrc file, just like I did with my Gmail
    accounts? Instead, I get a whole bunch of hassle from everyone.
    Leave it human beings to make things more complicated than they
    should be!!!  Damn!!!  You know, the less I have humans involved
    with my life, the less stress and fewer problems I have.

    On 4/13/23 04:05, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
    Yes, but you didn't tell them what it was and you posted an email
    containing our back and forth which will be totally confusing to
    them.

    I don't think because of that you'll get a response from them,
    but they are a very exceptional group, so maybe they will take
    the time to figure out what's going on. I personally doubt it.

    You could have taken my suggestion but maybe you have more
    experience with them.

    DR

    On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 05:02 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Yeah, I forwarded them to mutt-users@mutt.org.

        On 4/13/23 04:00, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
        Do NOT send to me, send to mutt-users@mutt.org

        Again, do NOT, NOT, NOT, send email to me send to
        mutt-users@mutt.org and attach both files and tell them what
        they are.

        Regards,

        David



        On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:53 Lester Rees <bushn...@gmail.com>
        wrote:

            Oh, I thought you needed the output that's in the .log
            file from executing that command.  Okay, I'll then
            attach that .log file to this email.  Sorry about the
            misunderstanding.

            On 4/13/23 03:47, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
            Please send to mutt-users@mutt.org email so everyone
            can help you.

            Unless I'm not mistaken, the command Jude gave you
            produces a file. That's what is needed, not the
            contents pasted into an email message.

            Please send again but send the email to mutt-users@mutt.org


            Kind regards,
            David






            On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 02:33 Lester Rees
            <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Okay, here's what's in my .muttrc file right now
                with my username & password Xed out:

                set from = xxxx...@aol.com
                set realname = "xxx xxxx"

                #IMAP Settings
                ##
                # activate TLS if available on the server
                set ssl_starttls=yes
                # always use SSL when connecting to a server
                set ssl_force_tls=yes
                # Don't wait to enter mailbox manually
                unset imap_passive
                # Automatically poll subscribed mailboxes for new
                mail (new in 1.5.11)
                set imap_check_subscribed

                # My credentials
                set smtp_url = smtp://smtp.aol.com:465/
                set smtp_pass = xxxxxxxxxxxx
                set imap_user = xxxx...@aol.com"
                set imap_pass = xxxxxxxxxxxx

                # My mailboxes
                set folder = imaps://imap.aol.com:993
                <http://imap.aol.com:993>
                set spoolfile = +INBOX


                # Where to put the stuff
                set header_cache = ~/.mutt/cache/headers
                set message_cachedir = ~/.mutt/cache/bodies
                set certificate_file = ~/.mutt/certificates

                # Etc
                set mail_check = 30
                set move = no
                set imap_keepalive = 900
                set sort = threads
                set editor = nano

                # GnuPG bootstrap
                # source ~/.mutt/gpg.rc

                Now, here's the output from that mutt.log file
                after running that command given to me by Jude
                DaShiell:

                
^[[?1049h^[[22;0;0t^[[1;24r^[(B^[[m^[[4l^[[?7h^[[39;49m^[[?1h^[=^[[?1034h^[[39;49m^[[37m^[
                [40m^[[H^[[2J^[[39;49m^[[24d^[[K^[[24;1H^[[?1049l^[[23;0;0t
                ^[[?1l^[>^[[39;49m^[[K^[[24;1H^[[?1049l^[[23;0;0t
                
^[[?1l^[>^[[?1049h^[[22;0;0t^[[1;24r^[[39;49m^[]104^G^[(B^[[m^[[4l^[[?7h^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[
                
40m^[[37m^[[40m^[[H^[[2J^[[K^[[2d^[[K^[[3d^[[K^[[4d^[[K^[[5d^[[K^[[6d^[[K^[[7d^[[K^[[8d^[[
                
K^[[9d^[[K^[[10d^[[K^[[11d^[[K^[[12d^[[K^[[13d^[[K^[[14d^[[K^[[15d^[[K^[[16d^[[K^[[17d^[[K
                
^[[18d^[[K^[[19d^[[K^[[20d^[[K^[[21d^[[K^[[22d^[[K^[[23d^[[K^[[24d^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m
                ^[[40mReading imaps://imap.aol.com:993/INBOX..
                
<http://imap.aol.com:993/INBOX..>.^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[4
                0m
                Looking up
                imap.aol.com...^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m
                Connecting to imap.aol.com...
                SSL/TLS connection using TLS1.3
                (ECDHE-RSA/AES-256-GCM/AEAD)
                Authenticating
                (PLAIN)...^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m
                Logging
                in...^[[37m^[[40m^[[K^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m^G
                Login
                failed.^[[?25l^[[H^[(B^[[0;1m^[[32m^[[44mq:Quit
                d:Del  u:Undel  s:Save  m:Mail r:R
                eply  g:Group  ?:Help^[[K
                ^[[23d---Mutt: (no mailbox)
                [Msgs:0]---(threads/date)-------------------------(all)---^[[2
                ;80H^[(B^[[m^[[39;49m^[[37m^[[40m^[[?1h^[=

                If you ask me, it looks just like a bunch of
                gibbereish.


                On 4/13/23 00:44, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
                What we need are the errors.

                Use the command that Jude posted, that will tell
                us exactly what is wrong.

                The muttrc file is not of much use, unless you
                want to give us your email password to try mutt
                and find out what the problem is.

                Best wishes,

                David


                On Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 18:10 Bush Nest
                <bushn...@gmail.com> wrote:

                    I'm at work right now, so I won't be able to
                    copy & paste what I have in my .muttrc file at
                    this point.  Until I get off of work.  I'll do
                    that then.
                    On Apr 12, 2023, at 11:32 AM, "D.J.J. Ring,
                    Jr." <n...@arrl.net> wrote:

                        I believe Storm Dragon's
                        fleacollar supports AOL.

                        https://git.2mb.codes/~lilmike/fleacollar
                        script URL
                        
https://git.2mb.codes/~lilmike/fleacollar/blob/master/fleacollar.sh


                        Use wget to download this.

                        Then chmod fleacollar.sh to be
                        executable and run it and give all
                        answers, including the password and gpg
                        questions, it won't make a gpg for your
                        email itself, it just protects your
                        passwords on your computer.

                        wget
                        
https://git.2mb.codes/~lilmike/fleacollar/blob/master/fleacollar.sh


                        Best wishes,
                        David


                        On Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 11:44 Lester Rees <
                        bushn...@gmail.com> wrote:

                            Does anyone, by any chance, happen to
                            have a sample .muttrc file that I
                            could use for AOL email?  And no, I do
                            not want a conversation or a
                            lecture, just a sample .muttrc file
                            that I could use for AOL email.
                            Thank you very much!  😁

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