Hello Dror,
>From Vic C's comment earlier about this being an advanced Struts list, I think I general purpose MVC list would be in order. If you can host it, that would be excellent! For resources, there aren't too many that I've found that discuss Web application architecture (java or otherwise) specifically. Ted Husted has some good general information at http://husted.com/struts, under the Struts stuff. One of the reasons I was excited about this list is that I felt it could develop a community that could answer these types of questions. About your javascript question, I can only tell you the way I do it. I used to use Javascript, but now I do everything serverside. With Javascript alone, there are the people who shut Javascript off. They may be rare, but I'd rather take the precaution than have a user see a server error when an entry is too big for a database column. To me doing Javascript with serverside backup is important if those few extra HTTP requests are going to make a difference on the server, but I deal mostly with medium to low traffic sites, so this isn't really an issue. Hope some of this helps, Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dror Matalon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [MVC-Programmers] Purpose of this mailing list > There's room for both, so if the founders of this list want it to be a > struts one, I'd be happy to host a more general purpose MVC mailing > list. > > > So let me ask a generic MVC related question. > > There's plenty of talk about different MVC architectures and what should > be done in different layers. There's also plenty of sites that talk > about web usability, for instance http://www.useit.com/. > > I haven't found too much information though about web usability from the > perspective of an application developer. For instance the pros and cons > of using javascript in your application. If you are using javascript, > what features are recommended and which are discouraged. If you are > validating, are you better off validating after each entry, or all at > once on submission, etc. > > While I have opinions, and we have adopted some solutions, (we are using > javascript for validation, but fall back for server validation so that > it works for clients that don't have javascript), I'd like to hear > about what resource other people use when they tackle some of these > problems: good web sites, newsgroups, mailing lists that talk about > these issues. > > Dror > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 01:36:49PM +1000, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote: > > Personally I agree with Steve - I'd like it to be a list for the discussion > > of advanced MVC framework topics and framework comparisons. > > > > There are many many difference places to read about struts ad nauseum. It > > has Jakarta-marketing power behind it (which isn't always a good thing if > > you're looking for the best technology ;)). > > > > I think either way the list owners should make a choice - if they want > > another struts mailing list, so be it - I'll look elsewhere ;) > > > > -mike "struts-devangelist" ;) > > -- > Dror Matalon > Zapatec Inc > 1700 MLK Way > Berkeley, CA 94709 > http://www.zapatec.com > _______________________________________________ > MVC-Programmers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.basebeans.com:8081/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers _______________________________________________ MVC-Programmers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.basebeans.com:8081/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers
