Hi Neal,

were have you been hidding :)

I certainly use context for multiple functions or at least I expect to
control multiple aspects...

For the sake of clarity, I need to differenciate professional from
personal tasks and for that purpose I've defined @Home and @Work. All
my actions are tagged with either @Work or @Home.

I also intended to implement GTD with MLO but lately I've started to
realize it may be potinless cause I, like many other MLOers, spend
most of my time either in front of my computer, off my computer but
"on my cellphone" and running errands (which I could sort by
location). You can add here @agendas as my fourth mindset or mind
context if you will...

One of the biggests things that I need to control in my life is
other's commitments cause they tend to (conciously¿¿?) forget about
them.

Examples:
Buy coffee (@errands, @Home)
Call sis about mum's birthday (@calls, @Stephanie, @Home)
WF Jos to send sales presentation (@waitingfor, #Jos, @Work)
Discuss with Jos Investment forecast for Q4 (@agendas, #Jos, @Work)
...

Now, what I need here is to create one view for Jos and also one view
(differnt of course) for Jos for all the outstanding items.
View items with Jos:

AGENDAS
Discuss with Jos Investment forecast for Q4
WAITINGFORS
WF Jos to send sales presentation

Note that I don't need work to appear here cause it would contain
both
 - WF Jos to send sales presentation
 - Discuss with Jos Investment forecast for Q4
if I use the current filtering capabilities if I'm not mistaken.

What I truly need is
1. Filter out all the items that are not tagged with Jos
2. Group them by context
3. Turn off Work context or better, don't even show Work context

And what I truly wish and would sooo much enjoy is to be able to do
the very same thing but in the outline view cause then I can keep the
logical structure that I've created there and that sometimes it is
sooo much needed if one wants to understand the exact meaning of one
tasks when the "surronding" is not shown.

Did I make my point clear? I hope so, my english is little loopy when
it comes to detailing things

Best regards and thanks for your time and knowledge, I appreciate
that.

/kitus
On 4 Juny, 01:59, Neal <[email protected]> wrote:
> To me is sounds like you are using "contexts" for multiple functions.  So
> you seem to only want certain of those functions displayed.  Could you
> define what you are using contexts for?
>
> It seems like:
> work vs home
> GTD contexts
> juggling tasks
> tasks assigned to others
>
> What else are you using contexts for?
>
> It will help to determine what contexts you want to turn off so to speak.
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM, kitus <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
>
> > thanks for answering Lisa, your comments are always welcome!! :)
>
> > I could create a view for "WaitingforItems" for which I could then
> > filter out all the task that do not contain @waintingfor, that's
> > almost fine but then again, @Work will be there containing a humongous
> > list of amorfous items... I know I could find a workaround like the
> > one described by Neal, but even though this could solve my problem,
> > I'm in need of more powerful filtering capabilities that either aren't
> > built-in or I don't know how to use the available ones.
>
> > Regarding your suggestion, I do want a view for each person but I need
> > to view waitingfor items separated from "agendas" items... need to see
> > those items grouped by context in order to be ready for a one to one
> > with that person (agendas + waitingfor) or if I just bump into him/her
> > in the corridor (waiting+for).
>
> > it just feels overwhelming if I can't switch off certain context of my
> > list once I have a view created. I know I could collapse "@Work" but
> > there are other context that I also need to make disappear and I don't
> > wish to do that manually. I can not be that complicated, right?
>
> > As an example:
>
> > Fred has to buy tickets to London (@waitingfor, @Work, #Fred)
> > Ask Fred about project status report ppt (@agendas, @Work, #Fred)
> > Call Fred about her sister's operation (@calls, #Fred)
>
> > I do want to see ONLY things that I have outstanding with Fred
> > Filter out not containing #Fred --> then group by context
> > #Fred
> >  - Fred has to buy tickets to London
> >  - Ask Fred about project status report ppt
> >  - Call Fred about her sister's operation
>
> > @calls
>
> >  - Call Fred about her sister's operation
>
> > @agendas
>
> >  - Ask Fred about project status report ppt
>
> > @waitingfor
>
> >  - Fred has to buy tickets to London (@waitingfor, @Work, #Fred)
>
> > @Work
>
> >  - Fred has to buy tickets to London
> >  - Ask Fred about project status report ppt
>
> > @Work there sort of disctracts my attention. Neal's workaround could
> > work here but in other situations it wouldn't and I would lose the
> > hability to run filtering queries including @Work in the future.
>
> > Any idea? sorry for the extension of my answer
>
> > thanks,
>
> > On 1 Juny, 22:31, Lisa Stroyan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > At 01:07 AM 6/1/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > >I guess no news are bad news :(
>
> > > I don't know of any way to say "group by context but don't show these
> > > contexts in the grouping", which I think is what you are looking for.
>
> > > What is your high level goal, and are you interested in other ways to
> > > accomplish it?  You certainly can create a view for just Fred, but I
> > > suspect you don't want that, it would be a lot of views to have one
> > > for each person.  Or do you?  If so, just don't group by context and
> > > they won't be dupicated.
>
> > > You can create a view that includes all contexts with # but excludes
> > > anything with @Home.    You could create a view that is only agendas
> > > @home, group by context, and then reverse sort so that @agendas is at
> > > the bottom, or put a "z" in front of agendas to force it to the bottom.
>
> > > >ask Fred about the trip to London (@agendas, @Work, #Fred) --> note
> > > > > that I use a special caracter for persons as context (#)
>
> > > > > what I want is to create a filter for only displaying all the things
> > > > > that I have outstanding with Fred and don't want to see them
> > > > > duplicated or n-plicated...
>
> > > Lisa
>
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