I am afraid that my brain is just not up to this sort of planning which is
why I need something to help me see the work I have got coming up in the
future.   And it is clear that I am not alone in this respect.

 

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My forward planning is accomplished using ancient technology: paper, pen,
and thought time. 

To be candid, I suspect that time to think is the most important of these; a
piece of software will probably never (at least in my lifetime) replace the
elegance of the human brain in juggling competing demands. 

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:30:55 -0000

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Subject: RE: [MLO] Preventing bottlenecks due to conflicting/crashing
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A question and observation...

 

Question: so how do you do your forward planning?

 

Observation:   I agree all the issues you identify are issues which would
need to be addressed in some way but those ways include not using the
facility.  For example, I have significantly reduced my use of recurring
tasks because a) you can't easily reschedule them and b) as you say,  2nd
and subsequent occurrences don't appear in the current ToDo view.

 

Alternatively <light bulb moment>,  the new 'Calendar' view could treat
these artefacts differently.  So the existing behaviours would be retained
in the To Do view (keeps existing, Calendar hostile user happy) but in the
new Calendar view (which can be ignored by those that don't want to use it),
things like recurring items would be displayed differently (makes Calendar
fans very happy).

 

Looks like I have addressed all the objections of those who don't want the
calendar (just ignore the calendar tab).   J

 

Richard

 

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Subject: Re: [MLO] Preventing bottlenecks due to conflicting/crashing
project deadlines

 

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Richard Collings <[email protected]>
wrote:

I think it is partly the GTD mindset that says (as far as I understand)
"don't bother with forward planning it is a waste of time.".   


I don't think anybody has told you to NOT to bother with forward planning.
I think people have told you that MLO is NOT geared toward what you want to
do.  Future task planning is about three things:

What you need to do at certain times.
What you would like to do at certain times.
    and
What you actually did at certain times.

I would love a tool that would allow me to overlay my plan on my scheduled
items.  I'd love to have a dual view of my planned activities next to my
actually work.  It's just that I don't see how MLO in its current
implementation can do any of that.

As I said before, MLO is really only setup to deal with a next action item.
In particular recurrences are NOT setup to do forward planning.  There is
only one instance of a recurrence/rotation and they are based on due dates
(which they shouldn't be btw, they should be based on start times).  For
future planning you would need a task for each future days recurrences.  So
you would have to rewrite how MLO handles recurrences BEFORE you could even
begin to deal with "future planning" features.

This is also true for sub tasks done in order and with tasks that have
dependencies.  None of those tasks will show up for a future plan.

So until Andrey rewrites MLO, I don't see how he implements what you are
asking for.  And that is NOT me trying to be an Andrey apologists.  I just
don't see how you get there from here with the current implementation of MLO

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