Greg - Andrey has always been very quite about what he's working on.

My concern and I suspect his - a good calendar is a very very big problem.
An initial implementation will cost a lot of time/money and frustrate
people with its limitations. We will spend the next as Andrey and co. work
to build bigger thing everyone wants. In the meantime other goals won't be
met.

It might help if people explained what business problem they're trying to
solve with this Calendar. This would allow Andrey to focus his efforts on
the right target.

Cheers
Mark

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Greg.O <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Calendar/workload-estimation features have been discussed more than
> enough already. You've been on this forum long enough to know that :)
>
> We really don't need to be going through ideas again. Enough posts
> have been written about this to kick-start things. Unfortunately,
> there has never been any willingness by the development team to look
> into the requests.
>
> Just looking through my profile I can see a few posts / suggestions I
> started plus a few I added my voice to:
>
> 1. Display the total of all "time required for this task" values for a
> group in to-do view. (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
> browse_thread/thread/19ba18c5e321ade4/b999d03b23fc80a3?q=)
> 2. Feature request - maximum-workload constraint.(http://
> groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/browse_thread/thread/
> e8e088b0ffd0d23/fb0de173d7bd651?q=)
> 3. Feature request - update "time required for this project" as task
> are completed (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
> browse_thread/thread/34d4b031c44f28d/15378ad93e9b8905?q=)
> 4. Calendar: (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
> browse_thread/thread/4756e00b5827d78a/ebede88c475720fa?q=)
> 5. Calendar wars (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
> browse_thread/thread/7a4d7b1c10dc530e/695588a597735757?q=)
> 6. Calendar for MLO (http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/
> browse_thread/thread/62a4adf208400087/8b30c3e5c0a897ff?q=)
>
> I'm sure there are many more posts on the subject. IMO, we don't need
> yet another thread discussing details. Maybe if the developers showed
> a hint of interest that would make sense. Otherwise it's just a waste
> of time, if you ask me. Or maybe I'm just a disillusioned user :)
>
> As for One Note, nothing beats its feature set for keeping and
> organizing copious amounts of information. It's an amazing outliner as
> well (the ability to roll up several pages of information into a
> nicely ordered overview outline with a simple double-click is a
> Godsend). Plus I can just flag any item as a calendar event with a key
> shortcut and have a corresponding Outlook even created automatically.
> I then drag it to the required size (15mins, 2h, half a day etc.) and
> can see straight away how my workload is looking and whether I've got
> any free time left or I'm overcommiting myself. I try to get back to
> MLO sometimes but find that, overall, OneNote allows me to manage my
> workload much much better. I work with IT projects and need to be able
> to not only manage tasks but also easily store screenshots, embed
> documents, tag things for easy retrieval etc. Plus of course visualize/
> manage my workload. Can't do that with MLO unfortunately.
>
> Regards,
> GReg
>
>
>
> On Apr 10, 12:06 am, "Richard Collings" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Although an advocate of doing something, I think there is justifiable
> > concern that adding such a capability would add significantly to the
> > complexity of the product whilst not actually solving the underlying
> > requirement.
> >
> > I feel sure that the problem can be solved and in a way that fits with
> the
> > MLO philosophy of providing a set of tools which can be used in a
> variety of
> > different ways but I can also see that it is not easy problem to solve.
> >
> > I think a key element should be that the new facilities should not
> intrude
> > on the existing capabilities so that those who do not want such a
> facility
> > will not be encumbered by it.
> >
> > If you have any specific ideas - particularly, some small simple steps
> that
> > would deliver some useful improvements (perhaps along the lines that have
> > already been suggested),  I would suggest that now would be good a time
> to
> > put them forward.
> >
> > How are you using One Note to forward plan your work?
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg.O
> > > Sent: 09 April 2012 7:12 PM
> > > To: MyLifeOrganized
> > > Subject: [MLO] Re: Time calculation total
> >
> > > Eh, it's amazing how many times these requirements (calendar, workload
> > > estimation) have been raised over the years. And so frustrating how the
> > > suggestions get repeatedly ignored or shot down with "bridge-too- far"
> > > or "MLO is an outliner only and should stay so" arguments.
> >
> > > Lack of any workload estimation functionality is the main reason why
> > > I've given up on MLO (found I can tweak OneNote to my requirements
> > > better). I still hope this will be addressed at some point though
> > > (which is why I keep reading the forum).
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> >
> > > On Apr 9, 5:23 pm, "Richard Collings" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Here is one of the topics where it is being discussed:
> >
> > > >http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general/suggestions/1043201-
> > > cale...
> > > > erview
> >
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Levison
> > > > Sent: 09 April 2012 1:31 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: Time calculation total
> >
> > > > Friendly reminder, +1 on a mailing list is fine however feature
> > > > requests need to go on mlo.uservoice.com where we can see how many
> of
> > > > your 10 votes they get.
> >
> > > > Cheers
> >
> > > > Mark Levison - forum grouch.
> >
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