Hi Stephen,
I'm copying the MLO-Android group as I think this would be a good
discussion for that group, perhaps we could continue it there since you are
a member of both.
There are several ways that tasks won't be listed as "Active" which is a
key concept in MLO. It is probably not because they aren't at the top
(unless you have "complete in order" checked) or aren't next actions -- as
long as they meet the criteria for active you should see them.
Active is a task that can be worked on now, and means things like:
- If they have a start date it has already arrived or passed
- they aren't complete
- they aren't marked as "Hide in Todo"
- They aren't dependent on another task
- The parent doesn't have "Complete in order" set
-They aren't in a Context that has certain "closed" hours
- If they are, it's during Open hours, *or* you have "Include closed
contexts" set in settings/ToDo
I may have missed some.
You CAN pull a list of all *Active *tasks -- that is what Active by
<whatever> views are for. (And you might like the Active by Project / Goal
views from the pull-down. But you cannot do this if you have "complete in
order" set. And there are other views to pull ALL tasks in an area, such as
"Goals". I do not think there is an "All by Context". (A very nice
feature addition would be the ability to go into the Contexts menu and see
everything with a certain Content no matter what).
I suspect it could be "Complete in Order" that is biting you. If you want
to combine "Complete in order" with tasks that you don't complete in order,
you would need a separate task to group the ones that need to be completed
in order. For example:
Project 1
Do in order
Do 1st
Do 2nd
Do anytime
Do anytime
As to your question about reorganizing your structure to fit with MLO
Android...In my experience there sometimes is a bit of compromise. Android
just doesn't have all of the features of the desktop, but it certainly is
do-able. What I do suggest is that you don't try to "work around" any of
the key concepts of MLO such as the definition of "Active" (not saying you
are because I don't know) -- it's a powerful model that sometimes takes
some getting used to, but there are so many features that support a
consistent, highly-featured work model around the key concepts that you
would be crippling your use of it to try to redefine them.
Does this help?
Lisa
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Stephen Said <[email protected]>wrote:
> So I reckon I might be missing something.
>
> I open MLO on my Android Tablet. I have the following Icons:
>
> Nearby, Projects, Active by Project, Bookmarks (Next line reads)
> Starred, Outline, Active by Context, More Views (Next line reads)
> Inbox, Goals, Active Actions, @ & Location
>
> If I select "Active by Context", I cannot see my context called
> "@Agenda-Management"
>
> If I back out of that part of the app (back to the main screen) and then
> select "@ & Locations", I can see all of my task contexts. In this location
> I can see "@Agenda-Management". It has the number 4 in brackets next to it
> (ie: "(4)")
>
> I select the context and it gives me all sorts of information, but there
> is no way that I can get the four tasks that have the context assigned to
> display.
>
> I assume that the reason I cannot see tasks assigned to a particular
> context is because in the outline view, they are still in a list, but they
> are not at the top of that list (ie: not the Next Action).
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Now before people begin to say I need to reorganise my tasks differently,
> here is the logic:
>
> - I have a list of tasks assigned to a project.
> - I know that I need to chat to someone about that particular task
> therefore it stays in the project list yet it is not the "next action" (I
> do not assign dates to tasks as per GTD methodology. Namely, only assign a
> due date when there is a hard due date associated with the activity.) I put
> other tasks above the Agenda task so I can progress the project yet still
> be mindful that there is a conversation that needs to be had when I am
> skimming through the desktop app or outline view on the tablet.
> - When I have a meeting, I want to pull out all of the tasks that I
> have tagged with "@Agenda-Meeting", which live in different projects and at
> different stages of the sort order.
>
> I hope that all makes sense.
>
> So in short, can you pull out a list of tasks by context from the Android
> app, that are not the next action (ie: sitting at the top of a project
> list)?
>
> Hope it all makes sense.
>
> On Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:50:38 UTC+10, Stephen Said wrote:
>>
>> How embarrassing!
>>
>> I was in a meeting today. My colleague said "So, what do you want to talk
>> about?"
>>
>> I flipped open my Android phone and tried to open all tasks by context
>> @Agenda-Management.
>>
>> No can do.
>>
>> I opened my Android tablet.
>>
>> No can do.
>>
>> The only way I can get a list of tasks assigned to the context
>> "@Agenda-Management" is to open the Windows client on my computer?
>>
>> I need to drag computer to the meeting?
>>
>> Seriously?
>>
>> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that this should be a basic
>> function of the Android client?
>>
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