What's the difference between available tasks, versus next or all?

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:49
Subject: RE: [MLO] Newbie Question -- Checked Off Routines Reappear Immediately?

Lisa has as usual nailed it but let me add this:
Two things to check/ I will write this for "Monday" tasks, you can modify it
for other days.
1. when you open the task "Properties" pane, under "Timing & Reminder" click
the button marked "Recurrence" - the recurrence pattern should show Weekly,
Recur every 1 weeks. There's a list of day names, Monday should be checked
and every other day should be clear. Under next occurrence, Start date and
Due date should both show next Monday's date and lead time should be zero.
Important, if lead time is bigger than zero the task will show up early. 
2. Click the to-do tab. Bring up the view you use to focus on your next
actions. Look at the top left, just under the tabs. You should see "Filter <
<" followed by a panel of filter options. If it says "Filter > >" the filter
options are hidden, click on the word "Filter" to bring them back. The word
under "filter" should now be "Active" or "Next Actions". If it's anything
else (like ALL or Available) click it and change it, probably to Next
Actions but if you don't see all the tasks you wanted, try Active. If this
change makes the report better, save it by clicking "Save Settings" at the
lower left.
-Dwight

Ps Lisa, much though I'd like it, I don't think you can create a repeating
task with a nonexistent start date.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisa Stroyan
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MLO] Newbie Question -- Checked Off Routines Reappear
Immediately?

You absolutely can get tasks to not show up until the following day they
should show up. I use this all the time.

It's confusing at first (just because it is so powerful, I think) but if you
stick with it it does pay off.  I have a short answer and a long answer.
The short answer is I think your tasks probably have a "start date" that is
nonexistent or is set to today, and it should be set to "next Monday".  and
you are probably using a view that filters to active tasks.  Try setting the
start and due date to the same thing and see if that helps -- you may have
to turn off "Lock Period".But even if that works, keep reading :)

The long answer -- Two concepts that I think are important for your
question.

(1) Views -- in the Todo tab of MLO you have a view. I'm not sure what the
default is but it's probably something like "Active Actions" or "Next
Actions".  A view is just a slice of your tasks, and you can choose which
slice to see at a given time. You can use a predefined view, and then as you
get more advanced, you can create new ones, but you shouldn't need to do
that yet. So for example, one view might show you "all completed tasks" and
another, "what you have that you can work on right now". As you go on you
can create very complex views (e.g., "All the tasks I have Starred or marked
Goal for the Week or Month and can work on now, plus those that are in my
Inbox so that I am forced to see them, and sort them by Goal, then by
Importance and group them by Starred.")

So when you say "they are showing up", the view you are in is determining
that.

(2) Each task has different properties (start date, due date...), but
sometimes MLO uses a bunch of properties together to create a more advanced
concept. One of these is whether a task is "Active" or not.
You don't define "Active"; there are quite a few properties that combine
together to make a task "active". I've pasted text from the help system
below, but the summary is that tasks are active when they can be worked on
right now. If a task has a start day before or on today, it might be active
when you don't expect it to if you are used to only using due dates, but
over time it ends up being very useful to separate the two.

So if you are using an Active view (or Next Actions which is a subset of
Active) , it will show you everything that is Active based on these
criteria.

1. Active

To be placed on the list of Active actions, a task must meet all criteria
listed below:

1) the task must not have subtasks or these subtasks should be completed

2) the task must not have completed parent tasks

3) the Start Date for the task is not set or Start Date is now or in the
past

4) the task must not have the option Folder checked

5) the task must not have the option Hide branch in To-Do List checked for
this task as well as for any of its parents

6) If one of the task's parents has the option Complete subtasks in order
checked, this task must have all above siblings completed to be placed in
the list. Or these siblings can have Hide in To-Do option set.

7) If the task has dependency tasks these dependency tasks must have been
completed.




On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:01 AM, RWind <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi.  I tried the demo for MLO loved the hierarchical system some 
> months ago, and how it kept me focused on the next action instead of 
> the whole list.  I found I was much more productive.  But there was 
> one thing I couldn't make work.
>
> I have sets of tasks that occur on each day of the week.  When Monday 
> comes around, I complete Monday's subtasks. Ditto Tuesday, ad 
> infinitum.  Then, I don't expect Monday's to show up again until the 
> next Monday.  But when I checked them off, they all seemed to get 
> created again immediately, so the new occurrences of next week's tasks 
> were showing on my todo list all week, distracting me.
>
> I stopped using it because I couldn't figure out how to make this work.
> Afraid now that I've forgotten what I'd learned.  Sorry if I am not 
> using the right terminology.  I've tried reading previous answers but 
> get bogged down in just that. But I've not found anything that works 
> as well in all other ways.  Can someone please take pity on me and 
> verify that I can make this work before I buy, and explain how to set it
up?
>
> Thanks!
> Newbie
>
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