I have yet to start using the Android MLO app seriously so I can't really comment. What I would say is that development on all the different platforms continues at a reasonable pace so it is worth checking back from time to time. I am going to cross post this to the MLO forum so that your desire to have a drag and drop capability on the Android platform has some visibility. The new Windows version contains a significant upgrade which allows more than one window to be opened on an outline so that one can drag and drop between the two windows which is a very major (and much sought after) improvement.
Richard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of phkiefer Sent: 17 January 2013 13:58 To: [email protected] Subject: [ecco_pro] Re: Outliners for Android + Cloud; help with my process Thanks for the suggestion and yes, I have tried MLO, but I can't stand an "outliner" where you have to switch into some kind of "move" mode before you can actually begin to outline, i.e. to move items around. Defeats the whole purpose of outlining for me - in that case, where's the difference to just editing a text document? I realize drag and drop outlining may have been hard / impossible to realize on previous Android versions, but as Memability shows, it can be done very well as of version 4 and I would expect serious contender to seize that chance... I hope MLO will be upgraded soon, otherwise it won't be for me. --- In [email protected] <mailto:ecco_pro%40yahoogroups.com> , "Richard Collings" wrote: > > Have you looked at My Life Organised. I moved over to using this (from > Ecco) years ago and find it very useful. It doesn't have everything that I > would like (eg no calendar) but it is very good for task management with a > powerful outliner (which supports filtering) with the ability other tabs > showing different views - a key element of which is a 'To Do' view - which > picks out leaf tasks and allows you to order them into priority order based > either on an automated priority scoring mechanism or by manual drag and drop > into priority order. > > > > It started as a Windows Desktop application but there are now Andriod and > iPhone apps and a cloud synch mechanism between as many different platforms > as you choose. It was originally based on the Getting Things Done > methodology but it is very flexible and can be used to support a variety of > different methodologies - including home grown. > > > > It has a limited interface to Outlook for diary (I think) but there is > strong pressure within the user group for a diary view - where you can see > tasks in a calendar style view. > > > > Its not perfect but the main thing is that it is being actively developed by > a small development team who do listen to the active and supportive user > group (I have included their email address in this posting) > > > > More details here: http://www.mylifeorganized.net/ > > > > Richard (no commercial links to MLO - just an enthusiastic user and ex-Ecco > user ) > > > > From: [email protected] <mailto:ecco_pro%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:ecco_pro%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf > Of phkiefer > Sent: 15 January 2013 19:50 > To: [email protected] <mailto:ecco_pro%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [ecco_pro] Re: Outliners for Android + Cloud; help with my process > > > > > > "Memability" looks promising: > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.ds.ma > > It is the first outlining app I've found that allows reordering and > pro-/demoting of an item under any other one via drag and drop in the main > outline list. > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:ecco_pro%40yahoogroups.com> , > "laurenceberger" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > As a daily (constant!) ECCO user from the very beginning, I appreciate the > great info here. > > > > I just got an Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread smartphone (Samsung Nexus S 4G > Sprint / "Pure Google Experience") and I'm looking for a pretty simple, > well-supported way to have outlines (not ECCO outlines, it seems, due to no > simple sync solution for me) accessible from both Android and from a Windows > (7) PC. > > > > I've read some earlier threads here but I'm wondering if anyone has any > current input or experiences. > > > > My primary interest is in an Android app (or even HTML5 web app) that is a > lightweight outliner that syncs both ways between android and Win7 or Web. > It needn't have all ECCO's other great features. And it would be nice if it > integrated with Gmail and Google Calendar. Google Tasks seems great for this > use, but I can't believe it supports indented subtasks to arbitrary levels, > but does not support expanding collapsing!!! If it did, that would be a > perfect solution for me, I think, though I haven't used it regularly yet. > Some other Android outline-related apps I've seen make a bigger deal of the > creation of each item/subitem than ECCO's seemless typing/tabbing; I'd like > that to be as easy as possible. A week ago Google published a Tasks API so > perhaps there will be more apps soon? Does anyone know of anything in the > works? > > > > I think I'm going to end up with more than one solution and will have to > fracture what I now do all in Ecco in order to allow easy syncing and > integration with other tools. I need to experiment, but perhaps: > > > > - Google Tasks for day-to-day, transient tasks that benefit from syncing, > Google Tasks integration with both Gmail and Google Calendar. > > > > - Evernote or some other outline/note app that syncs but supports larger > outlines/more outline levels more easily than Google Tasks, for those > outlines I want to sync but that are too much for Google Tasks. These are > note-taking outlines, small project notes, etc.; not as day to day as a > simple to-do list above. > > > > - ECCO on Win7 for reference outlines that don't change as much. These are > outlines that are longer-term reference info that I love keeping in ECCO > mainly to use expand/collapse. Maybe I can set up mirror text or PDF files > in Dropbox and periodically manually refresh there from the ECCO outlines so > that the information is available in the cloud too read-only; I'd only > modify them in ECCO. > > > > I welcome any input/ideas and would be happy to share what I come up with > eventually. > > > > Thanks for any help, and for all the great posts over the years, > > > > Larry > > > __._,_.___ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyNWhmOHFxBF9TAzk3Mz U5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5NDk1MDU0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNzM4OQRtc2dJZAMxMjk3OARzZWMDZn RyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzNTg0MzExMDg-?act=reply&messageNum=12978> Reply via web post <mailto:?subject=Re%3A%20Outliners%20for%20Android%20%2B%20Cloud%3B%20help%2 0with%20my%20process> Reply to sender <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Outliners%20for%20Android%2 0%2B%20Cloud%3B%20help%20with%20my%20process> Reply to group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZDI4dGp2BF9TAzk3Mz U5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5NDk1MDU0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNzM4OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBH N0aW1lAzEzNTg0MzExMDg-> Start a New Topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro/message/9866;_ylc=X3oDMTM2NmFsbzhrBF 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5NDk1MDU0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNzM4OQRtc2dJZAMxMjk3OA RzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNTg0MzExMDgEdHBjSWQDOTg2Ng--> Messages in this topic (12) Recent Activity: . <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJncjY0ZTA1BF9TAzk 3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5NDk1MDU0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNzM4OQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJ ycwRzdGltZQMxMzU4NDMxMTA4?o=6> New Members 3 . <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJoNmZ2azlpBF9TAzk3M zU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5NDk1MDU0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNzM4OQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2ZmlsZ XMEc3RpbWUDMTM1ODQzMTEwOA--> New Files 2 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ecco_pro;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNXRmNGYyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE 0BGdycElkAzE5NDk1MDU0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNzM4OQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1 lAzEzNTg0MzExMDg-> Visit Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNG1mOTNmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5N Dk1MDU0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNzM4OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM1ODQzMTEwO A--> Image removed by sender. 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