Hi Dwight - Answers in line
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 02:59:32 UTC, Dwight Arthur wrote: > > Hi, Richard. I have a partial understanding of this, I'll tell what I know. > > Background: keep in mind the distinction between the outline, which holds > all of your tasks, projects and folders in a definitive, hierarchical > order, and views in which the items may be sorted into some entirely > different (manual or programmed) order. The sort entailed in a particular > view applies to that view only and does not affect the outline order. > This makes sense > > The "Group & Sort" section of view properties affects the view sort but > not the outline order. If you right-click a task to bring up the context > menu, select Advanced a,d then "sort subtasks" this actually changes the > outline order. Note that if you look at a hierarchical view there's a very > good chance that you are seeing the tasks displayed in outline order, so > you will see the effect of having sorted them. But it's important to > understand that you are not sorting a view, you are sorting the outline. > The change will be permanent and will affect the outline order across all > views. > Ok - I am confused. When you say 'you will see the effect of having sorted them' - how will this have been done - I presume you mean using the 'Sort sub-tasks' because if I have understood what you are saying, using the Sort button in the filter panel does not alter the underlying 'Outline' sort. Incidentally, do you know what happens if you use the view Sort button in a hierarchical view. Does it sort the children of each parent into the specified order? > > I am not certain but I think that the command is greyed out if any of the > subtasks of the selected task are hidden in the current view. That would be > consistent with your Show Completed > Recent filter. If there were any > subtasks of the selected item that were *not* recently completed, they > would be hidden. As a result, MLO would not necessarily have enough > information to know where in the outline the hidden tasks should go when > the subtasks get sorted. > That's what I thought but doesn't appear to be the case. If I open up my All tasks view - which is a hierarchical view without any filters or sorting - the Sort Sub-tasks is ungreyed (what one would expect) but if I then apply a Show only those completed in the last 3 days filter, the Sort sub-tasks view is still ungreyed. Whereas, it is greyed in my All tasks (Recent completed) view which appears to have exactly the same set of filtering parameters. Very odd. > > One other ambiguous point: My understanding is that "manual sort" in the > sort and group box enables a manual sorting, but that this just affects the > view order and not the outline order. However a recent thread about > cross-platform synching of manual sort suggested that for at least one view > (I forget which one) the manual sort gets synched because it actually sorts > the outline order. I have not had a chance to actually try this out. > I think it is the starred view (from memory). > -Dwight > > On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 9:27:29 AM UTC-5, Richard C wrote: >> >> I wanted to sort the sub-tasks of a folder into alphabetical order in a >> hierarchical view. Unfortunately, the option on the Tasks Right Click >> Menu, Advanced Options was greyed out. I have encountered this problem >> before. >> >> Anyway, had a brain wave - the view had a filter Show Completed > Recent. >> I changed to a saved view which shows all the tasks (with no filter) >> and the Sort option ungreyed and managed to sort my sub-tasks. >> >> So I thought it must be something to do with the fact that the view was >> filtered but when I changed the Show All Tasks view to filter in the same >> way (ie Show Completed > Recent) the Sort option remained available. >> >> >> So I am now really puzzled as to why the Sort Sub-Tasks is greyed out in >> my original view - as far as I can see the only filter I am applying is >> the Show Completed > Recent. >> >> Does anybody know or have any suggestions as to why the Sort Sub-Tasks >> should be greyed out in this way? >> >> Aside: this is the big disadvantage of greying things out - one never >> knows why they are greyed out. You either want a hover tip to explain >> why or something in the Help or to change the behaviour so that you get a >> an error message when you select it that tells you why. >> >> Richard >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/271d86f1-dd45-425e-aed0-a7bbbb41cd99%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
