Couldn't agree more. I suggest not responding further. It only encourages them. :)
I'd only add "Shut up <eyes rolling>" and "Be gone, then" to the OP. On Friday, 19 June 2015 09:09:22 UTC-4, daniel wrote: > > I am asking this question totally devoid of drama and emotion. It is not > a flame attack take it however you choose but I just stated I have no > intent. > > With everything you just wrote I cannot help but ask; why are you still > here? > > you dislike what it is, you feel promises have been broken, you claim to > have found something that will suit your needs and you state you abandoned > this platform. Just go then. > > I do not care if you're still here and more than likely others do not as > well. You could have written your discourse in a private email directly to > the development team yet instead you choose to post on a public forum > > So since you picked a public place to vent then I am just as entitled to > have my "BS" meter go off as well and I'm calling it. Stop threatening to > leave and just do it. > > Every one of your complaints can always be categorized under the heading > "actions speak louder than words" because that is what you're asking for > you are asking for; MLO to have actions and not just words without > meaning....... > > so walk the talk > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Joel Azaria <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply Dwight but with all due respect I was looking for >> an answer from Andrey - a follow up to his previous comment; an "official" >> statement if you will and a keeping up of his stated "intention" to be more >> open with the end-user base. >> (despite no real evidence of actually trying - fluffy blog interviews not >> withstanding - I'm still masochistically hopeful.) >> >> >> >> At this time I have summarily abandoned mlo and I have not renewed my >> sync subscription for some months already. No reason to pay into an >> ecosystem that falls apart when I leave my desk and that doesn't deem >> respecting or communicating with it's users, even as they express outrage, >> to be important. I have stopped recommending mlo to others although I'm >> not yet actively encouraging others to bail. I expect my patience will >> wane on that point soon enough though. >> >> I find it additionally interesting that quite a few of the people who >> stood and vocalized opinions on my positions or comments, labeling me harsh >> or insensitive to the devs and other users for asserting myself and calling >> BS on this shell game of red herrings and misdirection, are now themselves >> feeling fed up and thinking/looking for alternatives. I need to learn once >> and for all that my bullshit detector goes off miles before those around >> me. >> >> >> I've not yet settled on a replacement for MLO though so theoretically >> there is time to salvage this "relationship". Though just today I >> revisited a solution that I rejected two years ago and found it has >> flourished quite nicely since and supports pretty much every platform I >> could want and may just be my direction. Unlike MLO, this company seems to >> have figured out how to keep pace on multiple platforms simultaneously, >> including a web app that is continuously evolving. I'm waiting to see >> Andrey's next move but I'm really not holding my breath. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 9:15:32 AM UTC-4, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Joel, Dwight here. One of the conditions of joining the beta team >>> is agreeing not to discuss the particulars of the beta test outside of the >>> circle of beta testers. But this statement by itself should reveal to you >>> that there is a beta test cycle currently under way. >>> >>> I am very interested in sync bugs myself. I wonder if I'm aware of the >>> specific bugs that are on your mind. Have each of these bugs been reported >>> on this forum? If so, would you mind replying to this thread with links to >>> each place where these bugs were discussed? This would allow me (and >>> anybody else who is reading this thread) to refresh our understanding of >>> problems in this area. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Dwight >>> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2 >>> >>> On Jun 17, 2015, Joel Azaria <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> So it's a month and a half later Andrey. Has this been released to the >>>> "beta" team? Will those not 'fortunate' enough to be selected for your >>>> private beta team see any of this new functionality anytime soon? >>>> >>>> Besides for new features, have any of the sync bugs been addressed? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:15:17 AM UTC-4, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Yes I understand that you upset because public beta testing of the new >>>>> generation of MLO-Android has not started yet. I feel the same way and >>>>> each >>>>> time I delay the release I think about it. However the quality of the >>>>> product is extremely important to me. The release was delayed several >>>>> times >>>>> because our tests indicated potential data loss issues. That’s how >>>>> development process goes - you can’t predict everything that can happen. >>>>> Sometimes we just want to check on smth twice to be sure that everything >>>>> will be ok with your personal data during testings. >>>>> >>>>> So let me update you on the status (yes I know I should do it more >>>>> frequently). The good news is that the last week I decided that it was >>>>> stable enough and have added a few external testers to the testing >>>>> process >>>>> to check MLO-Android v2 with real data. The test was good and as a >>>>> result >>>>> we discovered just a few new issues which I hope will be fixed soon. >>>>> After >>>>> these fixes v2 will be releases to the entire beta team. And I personally >>>>> use my real data with MLO-Android v2 already. >>>>> I can assure you that all we are working on right now is Android beta >>>>> last preparations, and we will send it to the beta team as soon as we >>>>> can! >>>>> I am sure that you will like the new version as much as I like it already >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As for the situation in Ukraine, it upsets us, of course. But it >>>>> doesn't affect the development process in MyLifeOrganized directly. Also >>>>> I >>>>> already mentioned this several times and will repeat it here again: all >>>>> our >>>>> development environment and your cloud data are stored only on USA >>>>> servers >>>>> manged in automated way or by people who live out of our country. So do >>>>> not >>>>> worry about this. >>>>> >>>>> We want to be more opened for our users, and soon we will publish an >>>>> article about MLO team and our working process, so that we could >>>>> understand >>>>> each other better. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to say thanks to everybody who contacting me personally >>>>> and supporting me and our team during this time. I really appreciate it. >>>>> We really like what we do and with your support we do it even better. >>>>> >>>>> Andrey. >>>>> MyLifeOrganized >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 7:50:47 AM UTC+3, Dwight Arthur wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jean-Marc. Yes, there is a war and just this February the city >>>>>> where MLO keeps its offices had a terrorist explosion ( >>>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31575384). I did computer work >>>>>> in New York City in 2001 and we lost about four months productivity >>>>>> after >>>>>> the September 11 attack. One big issue is that it’s terribly difficult >>>>>> to >>>>>> retain your talented and knowledgeable developers after something like >>>>>> this >>>>>> happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyhow, I’m staying with MLO not because I feel sorry for the >>>>>> citizens of Ukraine and not because I’m doing a charitable act, but just >>>>>> because I feel even the old, tired Android version is by far the most >>>>>> powerful and flexible task management tool available on Android today. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jean-Marc Meessen >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:14 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* [MLO] Re: So apparently beta testing for Android version >>>>>> 2 STILL hasn't started....(sigh) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wanted to point out that there is a war going on in Andrey's >>>>>> country (Ukrainia) if I am not mistaken. This can explain the "slugish" >>>>>> development. How would we work it out if our country was torn by a civil >>>>>> war. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jmm >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mercredi 22 avril 2015 14:31:54 UTC+2, Holmes245 a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Losing my patience with Andrey, seriously. I really don't think they >>>>>> need to take on more platforms with the development being this slow. On >>>>>> March 26, MLO team posted on Facebook a response in the comments to >>>>>> someone >>>>>> who inquired about the Android update: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "A little Android update - the development is finished and V2 is now >>>>>> ready for beta testing! When all the tests will run successfully, we >>>>>> will >>>>>> make the release. Thank you for being MLO user and for your patience." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Keep in mind, that was March 26. I posted a comment in response to >>>>>> the MLO team, commenting that something like that aught to have been a >>>>>> major post or update on their social sites or blog. I saw a response >>>>>> from >>>>>> them today, on April 22nd, nearly a month from their March 26 statement, >>>>>> stating: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "A post regarding Android update will be certainly a separate one. As >>>>>> soon as beta testing starts, we will make announcement with app >>>>>> screenshots >>>>>> and the list of new features." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On March 26, last month, they said that MLO v.2 for Android was ready >>>>>> for beta testing. I thought that sounded great. Now we're hearing, on >>>>>> April >>>>>> 22nd that it hasn't started but it's ready. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, sure, right. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/02c36f61-4720-4fe6-8e09-f0dc1fee2a79%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/02c36f61-4720-4fe6-8e09-f0dc1fee2a79%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/468153b1-6692-40a2-a3e3-2e7ca4fb03f9%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/468153b1-6692-40a2-a3e3-2e7ca4fb03f9%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MyLifeOrganized" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/a1f462d7-07d2-40dc-aa58-437592c3363a%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/a1f462d7-07d2-40dc-aa58-437592c3363a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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