I would also like an online (HTML5) version of MLO.

So many things are right now in the web, anyway.    Google Apps for your
domain, Gmail, Hotmail, Outlook, web.whatsapp.com, even banking has online
tools.

Maybe a branch encrypting feature could satisfy both requirements.


On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:35 PM Александр Смирнов <[email protected]>
wrote:

> If you are using MLO Cloud, it is time to worry about a possible hack of
> the cloud file )
>
> However, I have long said that using HTML5-core (or similar) would
> simplify and unify the further development...
>
> вторник, 21 июля 2015 г., 20:50:06 UTC+3 пользователь Dwight Arthur
> написал:
>>
>> Hi, Alan.
>> You present a compelling case for an HTML5 implementation.  My concern is
>> that if my profile were accessible in this way I would feel the need to
>> purge it of account numbers,  passwords,  unpublished phone numbers etc.
>> This would reduce the value of MLO for me.
>>
>> I'm pretty certain that any affordable security can be broken by
>> well-funded professionals today and by millions of teenagers in a few years.
>>
>> Perhaps the time has come that t need to move everything sensitive into
>> the encrypted password vault and keep it out of MLO so that I can
>> participate in the benefist of a web version of MLO.
>> -Dwight
>> Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2015, Alan Limebeer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
> I too love the app! I've been using MLO on-and-off since it was a PocketPC
>>> product. Previous to my current implementation, which I've been in for the
>>> last six months or so, I never fully committed to using MLO as my sole task
>>> and project manager. Since I've dived in whole hog this time, it has become
>>> an invaluable tool in my quest for "mind like water" (I often wonder if I'm
>>> the only one who finds that phrase awkward and ridiculous sounding) and
>>> I've explored and expanded the feature-set items I use regularly, with wild
>>> success. Since taking the comprehensive plunge, I've truly been
>>> experiencing a mental freedom devoid of the stress and anxiety that I'm
>>> missing something. Coupled with the automated list limiting features, I've
>>> finally got a GTD implementation that let's me collect EVERYTHING! while at
>>> the same time, boils my daily to do list into a flat, manageable 10-12
>>> items.
>>>
>>> So, aside from a few idiosyncratic and personal nice-to-haves that it
>>> doesn't do (yet, hopefully) I consider the desktop version to be "feature
>>> complete", for my uses at least. But, as the modern computing platform has
>>> evolved to include 5-inch touchscreens that we carry with us everywhere we
>>> go, there's always new work to do. Mix that multi-platform smartphone
>>> environment, each requiring a separate and non-reuseable codebase that has
>>> to be built, maintained, and extended separately, along with the rise of
>>> the MacOSX platform providing a user-base large enough to make writing
>>> software for it sustainable, the Development and Management of a product
>>> that supports them all is a software company's biggest challenge, and a
>>> development team's manager's largest headache and source of nightmares.
>>>
>>> In this modern computing environment, the write-once, run-anywhere holy
>>> grail (that Java was supposed to be, but never can be while the windowing
>>> system and UI elements have to be hosted in the sandbox) is the software
>>> maker's idea of heaven. With the release and refinements of the HTML5
>>> standard we're closer to that than ever before.
>>>
>>> This is all to come around to my suggestion that the Android, iOS, and
>>> any other mobile platform currently in development be frozen at the next
>>> version in favor of an HTML5 version which will be functional on any
>>> platform that supports a strict HTML5 browser. Additionally, it opens up
>>> the online feature that many (myself included) would love to have.
>>>
>>> I can only speak for myself, but I would anticipate that one might
>>> object to such a proposal because regardless of the advanced capabilities
>>> of the HTML5 environment, it will never be able to reproduce the full
>>> functionality of the desktop OS version. To which I'd answer, first, you'd
>>> be surprised, and secondly (and more importantly) it wouldn't need to.
>>> Something I've been noticing in recent years is the common perception or
>>> belief that a 5 - 12" touchscreen based interface should and can do
>>> everything a multi-monitor keyboard and mouse based interface can do.
>>> Spelled out this explicitly, its an obvious straw man, but this is truly
>>> what seems to be a commonly held belief and conviction in the
>>> IT/Computer/OS/Device Manufacturer industries. I think the realization is
>>> starting to dawn that these very different platforms have very different
>>> use cases, each with their own strengths and weaknesses, and each with
>>> their own ideal solutions to different problems and activities. Rather than
>>> these small screens directed by touch replacing or subverting the
>>> workstation, instead, they're an extension, and an addition to the
>>> capabilities granted to us by their use.
>>>
>>> This is all to say that the online and mobile versions of this fantastic
>>> don't need to be of the kitchen sink variety, but rather, only need to
>>> provide the capability to perform the kinds of tasks suited to on-the-go
>>> mobile task management. I'm not going to go into any more detail here since
>>> the last 45 minutes shoudln't have been spent writing this, but I'd be more
>>> that happy to discuss these ideas further if anyone is interested in
>>> engaging.
>>>
>>> Just two last quick things to mention. The first is to offer an
>>> real-world example of a company and software tool that took exactly this
>>> approach when they turned to implement their online-based outliner tool on
>>> mobile devices. Prior to getting back into MLO this was my go-to tool for
>>> task management. And while it's a fantastic tool, my task list of hundreds
>>> of items finally out-grew the manageability capability of straight-up
>>> hierarchical outliner (though the developers have added many features
>>> beyond basic hierarchical list management since, including due dates,
>>> tagging, and dozens of other features). It's called Checkvist, and can be
>>> found here:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://checkvist.com/auth/index_b?utm_expid=12887342-5.NGwmvD7YQZqaulJjAq0RVw.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fcheckvist.com%2Fauth%2Flogin
>>>
>>> The second thing is a comment only tangential to the OP but it addresses
>>> comments I've been reading recently that indicate a dissatisfaction in the
>>> userbase with the MLO development team's seeming withdrawal from the
>>> community and lack of current information, regular updates, and a general
>>> silence from what was once a largely interactive relationship. This is
>>> common as products and companies grow as the challenge to produce
>>> commercially viable software quickly starts to put the community
>>> development in the backseat. I beleive this happens primarily due to
>>> antiquated software project methodologies and I want to suggest to the MLO
>>> management team that they take a look at these two modern approaches to
>>> product creation software development. The first is:
>>>
>>> Running Lean
>>> http://leanstack.com/
>>>
>>> And the second, probably much more commonly known:
>>>
>>> Agile Methodology
>>> http://agilemethodology.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:32:46 UTC-4, osaga wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Will an online client version of MLO every be complete? It seems very
>>>> logical to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Love the app,
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
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