If REALLY you don't want to use any folders, I could suggest you an idea : - don't use any folder (obviously) - enter all your notes in the root of MLO (obviously too) - create a view that could be used as an INBOX : filter task that have nothing set (no date, no context, no icon, no star, no review date, is not project, etc.) As soon as you edit something on your task, it will go out of this view. - you can then create view irganized by contextx or whatever, therefore excluding the "considered as inbox" items.
This way, you have a completely "virtual folder" setting, that will Does it sound to you? Olivier Le mercredi 4 novembre 2015 11:59:07 UTC+1, Riaan Eloff a écrit : > > Hi Dwight, thanks for the reply. I think I'm just not clear enough on > what is bugging me :-) > > I would like to use the inbox as an actual inbox. > > Firstly, as software that openly claims to be in support of the GTD > method, the first thing one wants to do with inbox items is process them, > and get them out of the inbox. MLO does not allow this to be in any way > semi-automated (eg, say I assign a context, move it out of the inbox...it > has now been processed - or, say I assign a date/time to it, move it out of > the inbox, since it has now been processed). Sure, I understand what you > are saying about completing many IN the inbox...cool...that happens here > too, and then they are checked off an disappear from view. I'm talking > about the ones that will take long/are projects etc. > > Secondly, ignoring GTD for a moment, and ignoring the fact that MLO is > presented as GTD-supporting software, the absolute clutter in the inbox is > relentless. So, I've entered 12 tasks/ideas/thoughts/projects during the > day. Now, I start processing them, including sub-tasks, other new tasks > that relate, etc etc etc, and, at the end of my review time, I sit with say > 42 items in the Inbox which will require attention over the next > day/wek/month or even year. So, tomorrow, I start entering new tasks again > as I think of them, receive instructions, or get creative. Now, at > tomorrow's review, I have 42 already processed, sorted and ready-to-do > items, mixed in with another 7 unprocessed items. That's just a mess! :-) > > I reiterate, I want to use the inbox to capture ideas. But, they cannot > all stay mingled with each other in there, because, when I start > processing, it takes soooo much time checking which have been paid > attention to, which are new etc etc etc. So, this is my gripe with the > current functionality of the inbox. > > Now, moving on...yes, as +robisme correctly says below...you can manually > do this. True. Yet, again, the manual process is also quite wanting. > Let's take my example of the 42 processed item,s from before. So, I've > got 42 items that are either projects, sub-tasks, tasks, essentially things > that need to be done over the coming day/week, month/year. Now I simply > want to move them, manually, out of the inbox, so that they don't clutter > it. I go to outline view, and want to move them there, out of the inbox > into the "root" of the outline view. So, now I have to do it one major > task at a time. One cannot select all and CTRL-M, neither can one select > all and ALT+SHIFT_LeftArrow, because in both cases the hierarchy get's > thrown away. This is my issue with the manual method. It throws away > hierarchy (which I may just have spent 25 minutes creating, since things > were all related/dependant. So of the 24 items, say 16 are top-level > (start of a hierarchy or and individual task), I now have to select ONLY > the ones that are single tasks, move them. Then I have to select each > hierarchy tree individually, and move them one-by-one. > > To be quite honest, I do actually NOT want to use folders. I am happy to > put everything right there in the root of outline mode. BUT, the only way > one can get something OUT of inbox, is to actually MOVE it with > ALT-SHIFT-LeftArrow, which loses hierarchy no matter what you do, OR, the > only other alternative, CTRL-M, which, at least, KEEPS hierarchy, so long > as it is done ONE top-level item at a time. > > To me, the simplest route would be - let the inbox be an inbox to gather > things. Once I have done anything more than just plain enter a task (ie, > assigned a category, setup dependency, assigned a date, changed priority), > automatically remove it from inbox, and put it in the root of outline. OR, > for even better functionality, allow a button/checkmark that says "ACTIVE", > meaning: "This task has been processed, and is ready to be done". If > "Active" is not a good idea, use the word "PROCESSED", indicating the same > thing. > > Does this clarify a bit more what exactly my concern here is? > > On Saturday, 24 October 2015 15:13:01 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur wrote: >> >> Hi, Riaan. >> Different people set up their MLO outlines in very different ways, so the >> folders can end up with very different meanings. How would MLO know. >> Without you telling it, which folder sould house a project that you have >> just set up? >> >> On the other hand, a lot of my tasks get captured into the inbox then >> completed and checked off within a few hours, still in the inbox, often >> without even having been assigned a context. The objective is to spend more >> time getting things done and less time managing the queue. If MLO were to >> start sending my tasks off somewhere else, i don't think that would make me >> any more productive. >> -Dwight >> >> Ps in case you missed it, MLO have announced a major upgrade to MLO for >> Android targeted for November. >> >> On Oct 23, 2015, Riaan Eloff <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I created my first task in Android. Made it a project, created >>> subtasks, contexted it etc etc etc. What concerns me is that the project & >>> tasks still show in INBOX. 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