Hi, d00g. Let's start by reviewing the difference between outline order and
display order.
Your tasks are saved in your profile in an outline. If you do "collapse
all" (f6 on Windows) you will see the root items (tasks, projects and
folders) in their outline order. If you click on the triangle-shaped
"twisty" in front of one of the root items it will reveal that item's next
layer of subtasks, and so on to the bottom, or you can just hit f7 to fully
expand the outline. The order that the tasks are in, in the outline, is the
outline order.
When you do a full synch (as opposed to branch synch) to another device the
procedure preserves the outline order (as opposed to the display order,
discussed below) across devices. I have never experienced a failure to
preserve outline order, I don't recall anyone else reporting such a thing,
and if it were to happen it would mark quite a serious bug. I doubt that
this is what's happening to you.
Whenever you are looking at a display of your tasks, the formatting and
content of the display are defined by a view. You may not have explicitly
chosen a view but it's there, controlling your display. In the left sidebar
in windows (different methods in Mobile) you can bring up the
specifications controlling your current view. One of the sections is
called sort and it controls the display order.
The sort section can call for three types of sort order. My names for them
are outline order, manual sort, or programmed sort. In outline order the
items are displayed in exactly the same order as they are stored in the
outline. In manual sort, you drag the tasks into the order you want and
they stay in that order until you move them. In a programmed sort, you
select some fields within the item, like importance, or context, or due
date and the view shows the tasks sorted as you specify.
If you look at the sort section of your current view definition you will
see an on/off selector for manual sort. If this is on, you are seeing your
tasks in manual sort order. If it is off, you are seeing either outline
order or programmed sort. There is a list of several sort criteria in the
sort section. If manual sort is off and the criteria all say something like
(none) then you are seeing outline order. If any of the criteria show
anything other than none, then you are seeing a programmed sort.
These sort selections do not get propagated by synch. If you change a sort
selection on one device and you want to see it on another device, you have
to make the same change on the other device. Or you could export the
changed view, copy the export file to the other device and import it.
Also, manual sort is specific to a view. That is, you could have two
manually sorted views on the same device, and the tasks could be in an
entirely different order in each view. Reordering tasks in one view will
have no effect on the task order in the other view.
Manual task order is synched for only one view, the starred view. There is
no way to enamel manual order synching for any other view.
One last wrinkle: it is unfortunately very easy to turn on manual ordering
without meaning to do so or knowing that you did.
Ok, the diagnosis: I suspect that your tasks are actually in the same
outline order on your two devices but that the sort selection is different,
causing a different display order. Second guess: you are displaying your
tasks in manual sort order and the manual order is not propagating.
Please look at the sort order on your two devices. If it is different,
please change it to be the same. If you are using manual order, did you are
doing so intentionally, please consider using the Starred view, which is
the only one which synch the manual order. Otherwise please consider
giving up on manual sort. Using the All Tasks view, turn off manual sort
and set all of the sort criteria to "none" and you will see the tasks in
outline order. Do this on both devices and changes to task ordet made on
one device will be synched to the other. When using drag and drop to
reorder tasks, if you get a popup asking if you are trying to enable manual
sort, say "no".
Hope this helps,
On December 21, 2016 3:38:24 AM d00g <[email protected]> wrote:
So - here's a use case I encounter all the time: if I am in the Outline
view, and I have a folder with, let's say, 3 tasks (Task 1, Task 2, Task
3)... and I check off "Complete Subtasks in order" for the folder - "Task
1" shows up in my action list as intended.
However, after I sync to another computer, it gets the order mixed up
(Task 2, Task 3, Task 1) - Now I cannot rely on my action list, because it
will display "Task 2" as my next action.
Is there a solution to this or am I stuck?
On Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 6:22:40 AM UTC-4, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)
wrote:
MLO Sync does not support any View settings including manual sorting.
So if you create new views or change default views (including manual
sorting) they are not synced.
Manual sorting supported in Starred view only. So the order entered on
on PC will by synced to other PC or iPhone or BlackBerry or Android or
Windows Mobile.
A.
On Mar 10, 7:45 pm, uh Clem <[email protected]> wrote:
> It it possible to preserve manual sort order between two PCs when
> using the cloud sync?
>
> I know it can't be done when using the iPhone. But I just installed
> MLO on my laptop, and the sync worked fine EXCEPT that my manual sort
> order was overriden by automatic. (The items in the To-Do tab are the
> same, jsut not in the same order.)
>
> Now I'm afraid to sync back to the desktop, for fear of losing my
> carefully worked out sort order there.
>
> Does anyone know how this works? (I tried finding it in the forum and
> documentation, with no luck)
>
> Ideally, of course, I'd like to be able to drag things around in the
> manual sort order on either PC and have them reflected on the other
> one after syncing. But I'll settle for not doing any harm.
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