I agree with your statement of the problem but not your solution. I don't think that the MLO usrrs, who are an innovative and independent bunch, would be prevented from coding a "planned start date" in Start by documentation stating that it should be "first feasible date". Or vice versa.

Also, I do not think a system wide setting will do as I believe that many parole interpret the dates differently for different tasks. Household tasks will tend to show due date as last feasible date; step in producing a time-sensitive customer deliverable will tend to show planned completion.

I understand that it would be a large and expensive change for developers as well as users but in my opinion this issue will not go away until the two dates, start and due, are replaced by four dates. First feasible, Planned start. Planned completion, last feasible.


On October 18, 2017 4:27:34 AM Christoph Zwerschke <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 18.10.2017 um 02:36 schrieb Dwight:
 > For other users, a blank date translates to NOW, meaning get
 > on itor this will be overdue right away. I am in the first group
 > where blank-no deadline.

And I still think the second kind of usage with no due date = today
makes little sense. The majority of my tasks is *not* due today -
otherwise I would not need software, but could keep everything in my
head. Also, in that case I wonder why there is a button "today" which
sets the due date explicitly to today if it is empty. Yes, there would
be another subtle difference with an empty due date and one of today in
that tasks with empty due date would never be overdue, but I'm not sure
if that is what you really want.

The situation is more controversial with "start date". The first meaning
would be "the first day when the task theoretically can be tackled". For
the most tasks this would be today, so the default would be "today" or
"-infinity". In that meaning, it would only control whether the task is
considered active or not, and should not influence the computed score
very much. The second meaning would be "the first day when I *intend* to
start working on the task, i.e. the start date would be used more like a
"scheduled date". This makes a lot of sense, and I'm now using it that
way since MLO lacks a dedicated scheduled date. In that meaning, the
default (emtpy) value would be also "+infinity" (not scheduled yet), and
it should influence the computed score very strongly.

My point is: Depending on which meaning you use, the software should
also treat the fields differently, regarding empty values, default
values, sorting, computed score, determining active tasks etc.

Currently the values are treated inconsistently in different places,
which serves none of the groups very well.

So there should be a setting to elect one of these meanings, and the
software should adapt the default values, sort order etc. according to
the meaning the user wants to give to a field. Alternatively, the
software could assume a fixed meaning, but then the documentation should
explain exactly which meaning is anticipated, so that users don't give
the fields a different meaning that doesn't harmonize with the meaning
the software assumes and then wonder why they don't see what they expect
in their lists.

-- Christoph

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