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On 6 Jan 2018, 10:20, at 10:20, Venessa G <[email protected]> wrote:
>Wow, Dwight, thanks so much for the detailed reply! I am going to have
>to 
>come back when my mind is a bit more fresh and play around with it!  I 
>haven't done anything with advanced filters as yet. I have had MLO for
>a 
>week now and it took several days for me to get my head around how the 
>basic components work (particularly Contexts; I ended up having to go
>back 
>in and change Contexts on tasks because I didn't initially understand
>how 
>they worked). 
>
>I'll be honest and say that the time seems confusing, but it's also
>almost 
>2am, so I'm not exactly at the top of my game! lol I will come back and
>
>re-read though.
>
>Ultimately, what I've done at this point, is change some of the hours
>of 
>the Contexts (particularly the Weekly ones) to not display from
>midnight to 
>6am. That's helped a lot. I do also admit that when the due date turns
>red, 
>it makes me anxious... So that's also a big reason why being able to
>change 
>the chron time from midnight to something later would be useful.
>
>Okay, heading to bed, but I wanted to take a second to thank you very
>much 
>for such a helpful post and I promise I will come back to it when I can
>
>grok it better :)
>
>Venessa
>
>On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 12:59:22 AM UTC-5, Dwight wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:00:29 AM UTC-5, Venessa G wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm on the trial and have found that MLO seems to work really well
>with 
>>> the way I think and go about my day, with just a few exceptions.
>Most I 
>>> either learned to work within or I work around. But I'm really
>hoping this 
>>> one can be changed, rather than endured.
>>>
>>> I often work very late, sometimes after midnight. It's disconcerting
>when 
>>> I've got my list down to a couple things and then suddenly it's
>populated 
>>> with all the tasks for the next morning. Aside from going in and
>changing 
>>> all the time settings for the contexts so that there is nothing
>between 
>>> midnight and, say 6am (which could then mess up what I *am* working
>on in 
>>> the moment), is there any way to have the day reset at a time not
>midnight?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>>
>>  
>> Hi, Vanessa and Richard, apologies for the long answer but this is 
>> actually a complex subject. MLO has incredible power but a lot of
>that 
>> power is concentrated in the "advanced filter" section, where you can
>
>> define a set of rules that produced a list of selected tasks that
>exactly 
>> matches what you need to see right now. So, no, you cannot change
>what time 
>> midnight happens but you can create a task list which excludes
>today's 
>> tasks until 6am by setting up the appropriate filters.
>>
>> First, I want to check a couple of assumptions. I assume that a task
>that 
>> was on your list yesterday and didn't get completed should still be
>on the 
>> list today. Same for tasks that were on the list the day before
>yesterday 
>> and didn't get completed. And so on. Also, from midnight to six,
>while you 
>> are not wanting to see the new day's tasks (yet), I am assuming that
>if 
>> there's a task explicitly coded to start at 3am you want it to show
>up on 
>> your list at 3am and not wait till 6am with the rest of the day's
>tasks. If 
>> either of these assumptions is wrong then my solution won'e work.
>Please 
>> let me know!
>>
>> So, the key to working with advanced filters is to forget about
>issues 
>> like what time it is and how tired you are and just describe what
>tasks you 
>> want to see. State it in terms like I want to see every task
>where_____, 
>> and fill in the blank with a list of conditions. Usually the
>conditions 
>> describe characteristics of each task that determine if it should be 
>> displayed. Sometimes it includes characteristice of the tasks's
>parent or 
>> the task's top-level parent. It does not include the time, the date,
>the 
>> day of the week, or your horoscope. The advanced filter knows about 
>> concepts like now(current date and time), today (current date at
>midnight) 
>> and tomorrow (current date plus one at midnight.), but they have to
>be used 
>> in testing against defined characteristics of the task.
>>
>> We should also do some background on date/time formats and midnight.
>A 
>> date/time value is expressed as a floating-point decimal number,
>where the 
>> whole number part is the number of days since the start of the
>calendar 
>> scheme, and the fractional part is the time. 0.5 is noon (half way
>through 
>> the day) 0.25 is 6am (a quarter of the way through the day) and
>0.0007 is 
>> one minute past midnight. Also, with floating point numbers you never
>want 
>> to test for equality: 0.500000000000 and 0.499999999999 are different
>by 
>> only one tenth of a microsecond but they are NOT equal. So you should
>never 
>> test for a time = noon, better to test for a time later than 11:59
>and 
>> before 12:01.
>>
>> Enough background, let's design a filter.  We need to come up with a
>set 
>> of rules which produce the correct result both before and after
>midnight 
>> and before and after 6am. 
>>
>> The first challenge is that we want to hide today's new tasks for the
>
>> first six hours of the day. So the first part of our filter is, do
>not show 
>> a task until it is six hours old, or StartDateTime is before
>now-(6/24). A 
>> minute after midnight, the day's tasks are only one minute old, not
>old 
>> enough, so they are hidden. Six hours later they become old enough
>and they 
>> appear.
>>
>> This filter by itself would delay every task's appearance for six
>hours, 
>> so if a task starts 4am it would not appear until 10am, six hours
>later. We 
>> only want this six hour delay for tasks that start at midnight, so we
>need 
>> an additional filter to say that if the start time has already passed
>and 
>> the start time is after 12:01 then show the task. Or, StartDateTime
>is 
>> after today 00:01 and StartDateTime is before now.
>>
>> One more part of the filter: with what we have so far, if a task
>starts 
>> 10pm, the next day from midnight to 04:00 it will be hidden, because
>it is 
>> not after midnight and it is not six hours old. We need another
>filter to 
>> say that tasks from yesterday and earlier are also shown. The filter
>is 
>> StartDateTime is before today.
>>
>> The final filter is ((StartDateTime before NOW-4H) OR ((StartDateTime
>
>> after TODAY 00:01) AND (StartDateTime before NOW)) OR (StartDateTime
>before 
>> Today))
>>
>> If you have already learned how to add a filter to an existing view,
>then 
>> you have everything you need, good luck, and please let us know how
>it 
>> works out. If you don't know how to manage advanced filters, no
>[problem, 
>> just write back and tell us what the view name is of the view you are
>
>> looking at when, at midnight, the next day's tasks put in their
>unwelcome 
>> midnight appearance. I will write back with simple 
>> step-by-step instructions.
>>
>> -Dwight
>>   
>>
>
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