The overall answer is no, you can't sort by a date with manual override at 
the same time. However, there is a way of doing it in two steps. I'm going 
to complicate my answer now:


It's an interesting philosophical question: By arranging them into a list 
sorted by start-date, you would effectively be giving them a start date. 

MLO can't do what you're asking in one step (sort by start date but then 
override by manually moving items within the sorted list). However, if you 
have your Alt-F1 Views and Filter panes open, you can do it in two steps. 
Firstly, sort the list by start date. You can then go into the sort options 
for the filter and select manual sorting - from then on you can move your 
items without a start date to anywhere you like in your list.

The disadvantage of the above is that any new tasks won't automatically get 
sorted by start date, so you'd either have to position them manually, or go 
back to sorting by start date and lose all your manual adjustments.

Overall, my view is that a better option would be to give all tasks a start 
date (meaning the first date that you *can *do them, not the first date 
that you *plan to *do them - that second interpretation leads to a lot of 
adjusting dates and re-sorting). For tasks that you could start doing at 
any time, make the start date the same as the date you created them.  Of 
course, this might not work with whatever purpose you use a view sorted by 
start dates.




On Friday, 18 May 2018 06:10:18 UTC+1, Frank wrote:

> The functionality of MLO enables it to use it it in many ways. And i know 
> that users use it entirely differently. I myself use it differently 
> compared to the first weeks. 
>
> I like to have my appointments (calendar) in a list and place tasks around 
> them. With the new Google Calendar Sync - Options this now becomes even 
> easier. But there is a problem. I would like to place tasks without a 
> startdate in a list which is sorted chronological  (by startdate). 
>
> Is it somehow possible to arrange tasks without a startdate freely in a 
> list sorted by startdate. I guess that would make sense and would allow 
> users to use one list for appointments and tasks. Thanks for considering!
>

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